A Frazzled Hanniballianus

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Not much is known of Flavius Hanniballianus - he was the son of Delmatius and therefore nephew of Constantine I. Han married Constantine's daughter (and therefore his cousin) Constantina in 335.

    Constantine elevated him to Rex Regum et Ponticarum Gentium, High King of the Pontic Peoples, hence the obverse inscription HANNIBALLIANO REGI. But Constantine died in 337 and his Persian campaign never transpired.

    Upon Constantine's death, his sons purged the family of closest relatives, to eliminate any threats to the throne. Delmatius and Hanniballianus perished in that purge.

    Only one type was minted for H, with reverse of Euphrates reclining. This coin is rough and scrappy, but I think it's got great detail and character...

    han k.jpg

    Post him it you've got him. Delmatius works too. :)
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great coin, love the scrappy. Have a Delmatius from @Valentinian , but not photo'd and cataloged! (Fie on me!)
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice. A rare coin indeed. I have no Hanniballianus coins.
     
  5. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    From what I recall learning, it was solely Constantius II who was responsible for the massacre of the princes in Constaninople; Constans and Constantine II were in the west when Constantine I died.
    Constantius II was in Antioch fighting the Sassanids, and rushed back to Constantinople, had a quick funeral and charged the male relatives there with killing Constantine I. Only Julian, Gallus, and Nepotianus were spared due to their age. Oh and Constantius II was only 20 years old at the time!o_O
     
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  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    No Hanniballianus but I do have a Delmatius. I just reshot it, and I'm open to any feedback on the photo. I sure hope it's bright enough.
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    Delmatius, AD 335-337
    AE, AE4, 16mm, 1.78g; 5h; Heraclea
    Obv.: FL DELMATIVS NOB CAES; laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: GLOR-IAEXERC-ITVS; two soldiers holding spears and shields with one standard between them with dot on banner
    In Ex.: SMHΓ
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Pic looks great @Jwt708 and thanks for expanding on the purge @Magnus Maximus . I didn't want to make the first post too long.
     
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! With that tonight I reshoot some ancients!
     
  9. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    @John Anthony
    I don't have any of Hanniballianus or Dalmatius unfortunately.
    I do have a ton of coins from their killer tho!
    2Ew9LtM976qC8sSWkm5TBAo74e6WZY.jpg
    Constantius II AR Pre Reform Siliqua
    Constantinople mint
    Fifth Officina
    3.11 Grams
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have no H but will share a Thessalonika mint Dalmatius using the variable spelling which is not rare but less common than the E version.
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    The Dalmatius that we have on coins is the brother of Hanniballianus. They were both sons of Flavius Dalmatius, Constantine's younger half-brother.

    I really like this type and think any LRB collection would benefit from having an example of it.

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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Cool posts guys!!!

    As some of you may recall, last year I purchased a Hanniballianus that was considered to be a replica and another that was genuine...so here's my more modest but legit bronze:
    hanniballianus nummus constantinople hhc.jpg


    Unfortunately, Delmatius remains incognito......and still needs to be photographed.
     
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  13. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Roughed up but I'd take that example any day John. I remember Gil had one with a hole but otherwise a pretty nice example IIRC that I definitely wouldn't mind having either (I don't have Hannibalianus at all).
     
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  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Amazing the History you guys know , I'll have to hang around more often and google what you're talking about . Beautiful coins too !
     
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I have a Delmatius, a pleasant surprise from an uncleaned lot.


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  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Neato, despite its roughness

    The only Hannibalianus I ever possessed turned out to be fake (returned it and got my money back seven years after purchase)

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    Hannibaliannus, AE 3 struck in Constantinople in 336 AD
    FL ANNIBALLIANO REGI, Draped and cuirassed bust of Hannibalianus right
    SE - CVRITAS PVBLICA, Euphrate lying left, leaning on a sceptre. CONS at exergue
    2.46 gr
    Ref : Cohen #2, RC #3935, LRBC #1035

    Unfortunately this is a fake coin : http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=42890.0

    I can show a genuine (hopefully) Delmatius too :

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    Delmatius, AE 3 Siscia mint, 2nd officina, c. AD335-337
    FL DELMATIVS NOB C, laureate and draped bust right
    GLOR IAEXERC ITVS, Standard between two soldiers, BSIS at exergue
    1.41 gr, 18mm
    Ref : RIC VI, Siscia # 266, LRBC # 758, Cohen # 4

    Q
     
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  17. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    No Hannibalianus here, but I have a Delmatius
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    Bronze
    FL DELMATIVS NOB C - Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS - Two soldiers, each holding reversed spear and resting on shield, standing either side of standard
    Mint: CONSI (336-337AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 1.24g / 16mm / -
    Rarity: Scarce
    Acquisition/Sale: $0.00
    RIC VII 141
     
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