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Message:: [QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 7773396, member: 110504"][USER=107503]@VD76[/USER], it looks from here as if you did very well.  From my (see you and raise, regarding available references) 1st, 1994 ed. of Malloy, the legends correspond to p. 391, #107; an imitation of Gui of Athens, assigned to "Types in the name of the Duchy of Athens, possibly Florentine Dukes of Athens, 1388-94" (p. 390).  Without checking, I'm assuming the chronological range corresponds to the Florentine dukes, on the same, tentative level as the initial attribution.  Under the entry for #107, Malloy adds that "possibly they date from the late fourteenth or early fifteenth century." The lettering style, especially with the 'Lombardic' letter "E" --along with the more generalized fineness of the engraving, only especially of the legends-- is saying 14th century to me, loud and clear.  Beyond that, I couldn't tell you anything besides that it's likely to postdate Gui II's own issues, by however many or relatively few decades.  ...Malloy's section on earlier imitations, no less tentatively assigned to Catalan dukes (1311-88) would be another place to look (pp. 389-90). No doubt in my mind that [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER] will have more informed and intelligent things to say on this!  Malloy is clearly symptomizing the limits of available research (not to mention examples), as of the publication date.[/QUOTE]