A first for me - Show Grading - Guess the grade part 1 of 5

For those that read my show report, you may have caught the part about show grading.
This was my first ever show submission. I had a few coins I just didn’t want to mail and wait several months on. I also had read reports that show grading can bring different results (sometimes favorable) and I wanted to test that theory out (the $130k Franklin was a show sub, so one can dream right ). I paid the tuition of $70 per coin on five coins and had my PCGS results the next day. At least it was quick! I'm still waiting on photos but will still begin part 1 as that one had a TrueView photo from the last time it was graded (not by me).

Please guess the original grade and the new grade (originally PCGS and now PCGS). Are they the same or different?

Here I am including two photos (a PCGS TrueView and a photo from the seller).



This one also has a video available at the link below:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CakcZe3O5Zw/

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

MS-62 ? Guessing. New grade MS-64. Many hits on the cheek... I love the toning. Wow!

 

A nice coin...a split-grade of old...say 63/65 and while logic says average of 64...the rule now is, or was, and not sure how much they adhere to this anymore...that split-sides should yield no better than the least of the two...so will say 63. The toning might change that, one grader or company to another.

 

@Morgandude11 @jtlee321 @Pickin and Grinin and others come on down and take a guess

 

I think the original grade was a 64. The coin has clean surfaces, with minimal bagmarks, except for the cheek. The reverse is a perfect gem condition 65 or better. Obverse is very close to 65. I am going to say that it originally graded at 64, and with the very attractive toning, it got a toning and show bump up to 65. The cheek marks prevented it getting a 65, originally. Upon being resubmitted, it got the 65.

 

Very beautiful!! I think it originally graded 63+ and it was blessed with a 64 at the show. I think the reverse is very clean, but the marks on Liberty's cheek and in the field under her chin are the biggest grade detractors here. It's a split between a 63 and a 64 for me.

 

64 to 64+

 

I will take a look in the morning, It's beautifully toned even if it was assisted to a contagious environment. I am on the fence.

 

Ready for that look now?

 

I'll extend this another day to give more people a chance to guess and as I continue to wait for photos for the rest.

 

I'll go extreme and say it was originally UNC Details - Questionable Color and is now MS64. Guesses don't cost anything except my stellar reputation for grading from images (joke).

 

Original grade MS62

OBV MS62*
REV MS64

 

And the reveal:

Unc Details Cleaned before and still the same (no change).

 

I asked two different dealers at the show their opinion on the coin.
One of them saw a minor wipe on the reverse (that's what he speculated caused the cleaned designation). The other had a different view: he said the obverse likely had a minor cleaning a while ago and then someone attempted to hide that. I'm not sure what really happened but I still find the coin very attractive-the color really pops and it is an uncommon date for nice color.

 

Gorgeous!

 

Everything but the label

 

LOL!

 

Well, at least the toning looks ok

 

I can’t believe it. Does not look like it to me.

 

That's a bummer. Looks like one that would need a real looking over in hand. Still a gorgeous looking coin.