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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4973970, member: 110504"][USER=111037]@Only a Poor Old Man[/USER], thank you for your invariably incisive comments on the historical and religious context(s). And, from here, for the opportunity to correct an earlier oversight, relative to your observations (back a ways in this thread) about the loss of religious art, only starting with mosaics, during the height of Iconoclasm.</p><p>You're cordially welcome to consider the source (--Protestant? Busted), but your grief is shared by yours truly, as it should be by the rest of the global human community.</p><p>...Notably with what Daesh, and the Taliban before them, have been doing to our communal cultural heritage that much more recently.</p><p>Except, regarding the possible influence of early Islamic theology on the Iconoclast movement, especially its wholesale destruction of religious imagery across several media, <i>might </i>more immediate ideological factors have been in play?</p><p>First, thank you for your care to frame the possible connection on a speculative level. Next, all I've got for Byzantine history as early as this is Norwich, and in the absence of anything more substantive, I'm scared to even look at what he has to say about the subject. But that much of the same thing was carried on in western Europe during the Reformation, by militant Protestants. With that as more recent precedent, I have to wonder whether, in a similar vein, there might have been developments within Byzantine, or at least Christian thought (as broadly conceived), that may have led to this pitch of excess.</p><p>...In which context, your observations about how this came 'from the top,' apparently in both political and ecclesiastical circles, are no less resonant, and duly appreciated. ...The people on the ground are always likely to have better sense![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4973970, member: 110504"][USER=111037]@Only a Poor Old Man[/USER], thank you for your invariably incisive comments on the historical and religious context(s). And, from here, for the opportunity to correct an earlier oversight, relative to your observations (back a ways in this thread) about the loss of religious art, only starting with mosaics, during the height of Iconoclasm. You're cordially welcome to consider the source (--Protestant? Busted), but your grief is shared by yours truly, as it should be by the rest of the global human community. ...Notably with what Daesh, and the Taliban before them, have been doing to our communal cultural heritage that much more recently. Except, regarding the possible influence of early Islamic theology on the Iconoclast movement, especially its wholesale destruction of religious imagery across several media, [I]might [/I]more immediate ideological factors have been in play? First, thank you for your care to frame the possible connection on a speculative level. Next, all I've got for Byzantine history as early as this is Norwich, and in the absence of anything more substantive, I'm scared to even look at what he has to say about the subject. But that much of the same thing was carried on in western Europe during the Reformation, by militant Protestants. With that as more recent precedent, I have to wonder whether, in a similar vein, there might have been developments within Byzantine, or at least Christian thought (as broadly conceived), that may have led to this pitch of excess. ...In which context, your observations about how this came 'from the top,' apparently in both political and ecclesiastical circles, are no less resonant, and duly appreciated. ...The people on the ground are always likely to have better sense![/QUOTE]
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