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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6373894, member: 110504"][ATTACH=full]1252292[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252293[/ATTACH]</p><p>France; County of Tonnere. Anonymous, c. 12th c.</p><p>Obv. +TORNODORI CASTI (Castle of Tonnere).</p><p>Rev. Cross; stars to each side.</p><p>(Boudeau 1726, Poey d’Avant 5855 /Pl. 135: 18; minor legend variant.)</p><p>The reverse motif riffs on a vaguely contemporaneous issue of the neighboring county of Auxerre.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252304[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252305[/ATTACH]</p><p>Obv. Latin cross, the lower arm extending to the outer border.</p><p>AVTS / IODER CI[vitas]; retrograde ‘C’ replacing the ‘D’.</p><p>Rev. Cross; three pellets to each side.</p><p>(Boudeau 1736, with another minor legend variant. ...Yes, they’re kind of endemic to the earlier phases of the series. ...No cause for alarm!)</p><p>This is an earlier issue from Auxerre, c. later 10th -earlier 11th centuries. Already with the same blundering of the legend as the preceding, but later example.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252298[/ATTACH]</p><p>(Boudeau 1731; Dumas, Trésor de Fécamp pp. 169-71 /6678-6723 and Pl. XII.)</p><p>During most of this interval, the counties of Tonnere and Auxerre were located in, and feudally subject to, the larger county of Nevers. From the 11th into the 13th centuries, the reigning count or countess of Nevers had direct administration over all three.</p><p>Here’s a later issue of Auxerre, c. 1230, corresponding to the comital reign of Mahaut /Mathilde I, Countess of Nevers 1193 -1257.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252303[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252257[/ATTACH]</p><p>Obv. +ALTISIODOR.</p><p>Rev. Cross; fleurs de lis and groupings of three pellets on each side.</p><p>(Poey d’Avant pp. 233-4, no. 5897.)</p><p>As a motif, the fleur de lis is distinctive of a small number of feudal issues from the early -mid 13th century. In this instance, it could be making reference to Mahaut’s immediate, paternal descent from a cadet branch of the royal Capetian dynasty. But along similarly speculative lines, they could be seen as symptomizing the broader expansion of royal administrative power over the same period. Not long after this, Mahaut’s granddaughter and heir was issuing deniers from Nevers itself, with the same motif.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1252301[/ATTACH]</p><p>Mahaut II, Countess of Nevers 1257-1262.</p><p>Obv. In field: “I;” two stars to left, fleur de lis to right. +M. COMITISSA.</p><p>Rev. NIVERNIS CIVIT[AS].</p><p>(Boudeau 347, Poey d’Avant 2141.)</p><p>Post anything corresponding to the 10th -13th -century CE. --Go ahead! I <i>dare</i> you!</p><p>:<}[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6373894, member: 110504"][ATTACH=full]1252292[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1252293[/ATTACH] France; County of Tonnere. Anonymous, c. 12th c. Obv. +TORNODORI CASTI (Castle of Tonnere). Rev. Cross; stars to each side. (Boudeau 1726, Poey d’Avant 5855 /Pl. 135: 18; minor legend variant.) The reverse motif riffs on a vaguely contemporaneous issue of the neighboring county of Auxerre. [ATTACH=full]1252304[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1252305[/ATTACH] Obv. Latin cross, the lower arm extending to the outer border. AVTS / IODER CI[vitas]; retrograde ‘C’ replacing the ‘D’. Rev. Cross; three pellets to each side. (Boudeau 1736, with another minor legend variant. ...Yes, they’re kind of endemic to the earlier phases of the series. ...No cause for alarm!) This is an earlier issue from Auxerre, c. later 10th -earlier 11th centuries. Already with the same blundering of the legend as the preceding, but later example. [ATTACH=full]1252298[/ATTACH] (Boudeau 1731; Dumas, Trésor de Fécamp pp. 169-71 /6678-6723 and Pl. XII.) During most of this interval, the counties of Tonnere and Auxerre were located in, and feudally subject to, the larger county of Nevers. From the 11th into the 13th centuries, the reigning count or countess of Nevers had direct administration over all three. Here’s a later issue of Auxerre, c. 1230, corresponding to the comital reign of Mahaut /Mathilde I, Countess of Nevers 1193 -1257. [ATTACH=full]1252303[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1252257[/ATTACH] Obv. +ALTISIODOR. Rev. Cross; fleurs de lis and groupings of three pellets on each side. (Poey d’Avant pp. 233-4, no. 5897.) As a motif, the fleur de lis is distinctive of a small number of feudal issues from the early -mid 13th century. In this instance, it could be making reference to Mahaut’s immediate, paternal descent from a cadet branch of the royal Capetian dynasty. But along similarly speculative lines, they could be seen as symptomizing the broader expansion of royal administrative power over the same period. Not long after this, Mahaut’s granddaughter and heir was issuing deniers from Nevers itself, with the same motif. [ATTACH=full]1252301[/ATTACH] Mahaut II, Countess of Nevers 1257-1262. Obv. In field: “I;” two stars to left, fleur de lis to right. +M. COMITISSA. Rev. NIVERNIS CIVIT[AS]. (Boudeau 347, Poey d’Avant 2141.) Post anything corresponding to the 10th -13th -century CE. --Go ahead! I [I]dare[/I] you! :<}[/QUOTE]
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