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<p>[QUOTE="Nap, post: 2718485, member: 73099"]Orfew and John, thanks for the commentary about the symbols.</p><p><br /></p><p>While the idea of the Yggdrasil is appealing just because it's a cool story, it's probably not true. Megan Gooch took up this theory actually, her thesis is a long read but the relevant parts can be found:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3495/1/MGooch_Money_%26_Power_in_Viking_Kingdom_of_York_2012.pdf?DDD17+" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3495/1/MGooch_Money_%26_Power_in_Viking_Kingdom_of_York_2012.pdf?DDD17+" rel="nofollow">http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3495/1/MGooch_Money_&_Power_in_Viking_Kingdom_of_York_2012.pdf?DDD17+</a></p><p>(Page 66)</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree that it seems unlikely that a specific symbol of past religious worship be so prominent on an overtly Christian coin. Rather it is probably a cultural symbol.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, the latter appearance of the hammer (of Thor?) flies in the face of this consideration. Keep in mind that the hammer did not appear on this first round of St. Peter coins, which otherwise have no non-Christian symbols</p><p><br /></p><p>Gooch talks about the sword as well (page 82), where she weighs it being the sword of St. Peter vs the sword of Carlus. She favors Carlus, but St. Peter's sword makes sense too, considering it does say "St. Peter" and not "Carlus" on the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, two things to consider-</p><p>1) The sword-type St. Peter coins were later than the swordless ones. The symbols are different. The key is gone, and a hammer appears which is probably the hammer of Thor. So if anything, the symbols appear more Viking than Christian as time passed.</p><p>2) Swords appear on Viking coins of Sihtric Caoch, St. Martin of Lincoln (who has his own 'sword' story), an anonymous coinage probably during Sihtric's time, and later of Eric Bloodaxe. The sword has to have more than just a religious meaning. It could just be a symbol of might or military prowess, or it could represent the Hiberno-Norse dynasty. If the latter, then the connection to the sword of Carlus seems more plausible, since it seems to be part of the Hiberno-Norse kings' symbols.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Nap, post: 2718485, member: 73099"]Orfew and John, thanks for the commentary about the symbols. While the idea of the Yggdrasil is appealing just because it's a cool story, it's probably not true. Megan Gooch took up this theory actually, her thesis is a long read but the relevant parts can be found: [url]http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3495/1/MGooch_Money_%26_Power_in_Viking_Kingdom_of_York_2012.pdf?DDD17+[/url] (Page 66) I agree that it seems unlikely that a specific symbol of past religious worship be so prominent on an overtly Christian coin. Rather it is probably a cultural symbol. However, the latter appearance of the hammer (of Thor?) flies in the face of this consideration. Keep in mind that the hammer did not appear on this first round of St. Peter coins, which otherwise have no non-Christian symbols Gooch talks about the sword as well (page 82), where she weighs it being the sword of St. Peter vs the sword of Carlus. She favors Carlus, but St. Peter's sword makes sense too, considering it does say "St. Peter" and not "Carlus" on the coin. However, two things to consider- 1) The sword-type St. Peter coins were later than the swordless ones. The symbols are different. The key is gone, and a hammer appears which is probably the hammer of Thor. So if anything, the symbols appear more Viking than Christian as time passed. 2) Swords appear on Viking coins of Sihtric Caoch, St. Martin of Lincoln (who has his own 'sword' story), an anonymous coinage probably during Sihtric's time, and later of Eric Bloodaxe. The sword has to have more than just a religious meaning. It could just be a symbol of might or military prowess, or it could represent the Hiberno-Norse dynasty. If the latter, then the connection to the sword of Carlus seems more plausible, since it seems to be part of the Hiberno-Norse kings' symbols.[/QUOTE]
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