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<p>[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1346347, member: 28199"]Most of these guys know how to get around the rules. I believe the eBay policy states when listing a "certified" coin they mean in the listing title. I do not think you can list "a coin", show a picture in a slab, and violate eBay's regulation on "listing certified coins". By that I mean I can't title a listing as "OCG (Omahaorange Coin Guaranty) MS-70 quarter. I can list the coin as a quarter, and showing a photo of that coin in a slab with an OCG label does not violate the policy. As long as I don't mention the OCG or assigned grade, I am in compliance. </p><p><br /></p><p>You're also walking on thin ice by this statement:</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial">They are not collections, they are not old "hoards", they are not even found!</font></span></b></p><p><b><span style="color: #333333"></span> </b><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"> <b><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial">These are ALL collections put together by the seller themselves.</font></span></b></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"><b><br /></b></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"> <span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"><b>They purchase old treasure chests, cigar boxes, etc, and fill them with their "self-slabbed" coins, and several other common ones.</b></font></span></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"> <b><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial">Then they photograph it making it look like an old coin collection, to dupe people into checking out their listing.</font></span></b></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"><b><br /></b></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial">Can you <b>prove</b> these statements? I know what they look like, and I'm not saying they're not valid assumptions, but you've made an accusation without concrete proof (opinions do not count as proof). This is the same as "unsearched rolls". We all know those don't really exist, but can you truely prove that the seller didn't pull the keys? Can you really prove the seller did place the gold piece on the end of the roll? Did I really get ripped off if I bought the roll for around the going rate? Even if I didn't score a key date? Is it the seller's fault if I pay an exhoritant amount for common date coins in an "unsearched roll", or is my greed at finding a key date for dirt cheap to blame?</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><font face="arial">It's one thing to discuss among ourselves the pros and cons of falling for these ads. It's also okay to educate your family and friends. But when you make an open call to "shut down" someone, you best be able to back it up with facts, not opinions.</font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="omahaorange, post: 1346347, member: 28199"]Most of these guys know how to get around the rules. I believe the eBay policy states when listing a "certified" coin they mean in the listing title. I do not think you can list "a coin", show a picture in a slab, and violate eBay's regulation on "listing certified coins". By that I mean I can't title a listing as "OCG (Omahaorange Coin Guaranty) MS-70 quarter. I can list the coin as a quarter, and showing a photo of that coin in a slab with an OCG label does not violate the policy. As long as I don't mention the OCG or assigned grade, I am in compliance. You're also walking on thin ice by this statement: [B][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]They are not collections, they are not old "hoards", they are not even found![/FONT] [/COLOR] [/B][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] [B][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]These are ALL collections put together by the seller themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial][B]They purchase old treasure chests, cigar boxes, etc, and fill them with their "self-slabbed" coins, and several other common ones.[/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Then they photograph it making it look like an old coin collection, to dupe people into checking out their listing.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/B] Can you [B]prove[/B] these statements? I know what they look like, and I'm not saying they're not valid assumptions, but you've made an accusation without concrete proof (opinions do not count as proof). This is the same as "unsearched rolls". We all know those don't really exist, but can you truely prove that the seller didn't pull the keys? Can you really prove the seller did place the gold piece on the end of the roll? Did I really get ripped off if I bought the roll for around the going rate? Even if I didn't score a key date? Is it the seller's fault if I pay an exhoritant amount for common date coins in an "unsearched roll", or is my greed at finding a key date for dirt cheap to blame? It's one thing to discuss among ourselves the pros and cons of falling for these ads. It's also okay to educate your family and friends. But when you make an open call to "shut down" someone, you best be able to back it up with facts, not opinions.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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