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<p>[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3297493, member: 93416"]I agree the situation there is complicated. The prototype is later Sasanid, with a weight at around 4.13g Most of the early Indo-Sasanid weigh below that. In the middle period they seem to approach it, then as you say at the end they go higher</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a pic of what I mean by middle period</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]872940[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So its all a bit complicated and confusing. What we can say though is that about the time the Indo sasanid coins get close to c. 4.10 quite a lot of other issues in India do too. The Govinda Chandra gold coins, the silver coins of the Cholas etc. And these coins seem to be all called species of Gadyana (as I best recall) – thus it seems possible they were all actually following this c. 4.13g standard. There is no Hindu precedent for it I can think of.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree. The argument however is that the word dam derives ultimately from the Indo-Greek drachm – which is about 1700 years prior. Two important things to bear in mind when evaluating this suggestion. Firstly - all the new work done by Fishman and Todd in the new book I linked to earlier. Secondly, contemporary with the big Moghul copper dams are (very) small Nepalese silver dams…….</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree that would be a poor argument. But the stronger argument that the denier actually derives from the denarius is this - at the reform of Charlemagne in the early 790’s, the weight of the denier was fixed at c. 1.7g and that it can be argued that that was quite deliberately fixed at exactly half the weight of Nero’s denarius at 3.4g.</p><p><br /></p><p>Actually I drafted a paper for the ANA magazine giving more details of that argument, but unfortunately it made no progress getting into print…….</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob T[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EWC3, post: 3297493, member: 93416"]I agree the situation there is complicated. The prototype is later Sasanid, with a weight at around 4.13g Most of the early Indo-Sasanid weigh below that. In the middle period they seem to approach it, then as you say at the end they go higher Here is a pic of what I mean by middle period [ATTACH=full]872940[/ATTACH] So its all a bit complicated and confusing. What we can say though is that about the time the Indo sasanid coins get close to c. 4.10 quite a lot of other issues in India do too. The Govinda Chandra gold coins, the silver coins of the Cholas etc. And these coins seem to be all called species of Gadyana (as I best recall) – thus it seems possible they were all actually following this c. 4.13g standard. There is no Hindu precedent for it I can think of. I agree. The argument however is that the word dam derives ultimately from the Indo-Greek drachm – which is about 1700 years prior. Two important things to bear in mind when evaluating this suggestion. Firstly - all the new work done by Fishman and Todd in the new book I linked to earlier. Secondly, contemporary with the big Moghul copper dams are (very) small Nepalese silver dams……. I agree that would be a poor argument. But the stronger argument that the denier actually derives from the denarius is this - at the reform of Charlemagne in the early 790’s, the weight of the denier was fixed at c. 1.7g and that it can be argued that that was quite deliberately fixed at exactly half the weight of Nero’s denarius at 3.4g. Actually I drafted a paper for the ANA magazine giving more details of that argument, but unfortunately it made no progress getting into print……. Rob T[/QUOTE]
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