A Doughty Dupondius

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  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Domitian's middle bronzes are quite affordable and can be easily found in trade. Aesthetically they are quite pleasing, especially the dupondii. My latest addition is one such coin - not too expensive and very easy on the eyes.


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    Domitian
    Æ Dupondius, 10.34g
    Rome mint, 90-91 AD
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XV CENS PER P P; Head of Domitian, radiate, bearded, r.
    Rev: VIRTVTI AVGVSTI; S C in field; Virtus stg. r., foot on helmet, with spear and parazonium
    RIC 706 (C2). BMC 446. BNC -.

    The Virtus type was struck repeatedly on Domitian's middle bronze from 84 onwards. I. Carradice in his 1983 monograph on Domitian's coinage says the following concerning the type - 'Virtus is a military type, symbolic of the courage of Domitian and the mutual devotion between the army and emperor.' Virtus first appears on the coinage in the flurry of Germania Capta types that were struck soon after Domitian's German triumph. She is impressively depicted in traditional Amazon attire. This Virtus dupondius is fairly common but is oddly missing from the Paris collection.

    Please feel free to post your affordable beauties.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice example @David Atherton

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    DOMITIAN
    AE As
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XI CENS POT P P, laureate head right, aegis at tip of bust
    REVERSE: MONETA AVGVSTI, S-C, Moneta standing left, holding scales & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 85AD
    11.7g, 27mm
    RIC 384

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    DOMITIAN
    AE Dupondius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XII CENS PER P P, radiate head right
    REVERSE: S-C, Mars advancing left, holding Victory & trophy
    Struck at Rome, 86 AD
    11.6g, 27mm
    RIC 482

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    DOMITIAN
    AE As
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XVI CENS PER P P, laureate head right
    REVERSE: MONETA AVGVSTI, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopia
    Struck at Rome, 92-94AD
    10g, 26mm
    RIC 756
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love the look and the reverse, great addition.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Amen! That's a very handsome example!
     
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  6. Parthicus Maximus

    Parthicus Maximus Well-Known Member

    A fine addition! I like the colour and the artistic detail.
     
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  7. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    The dupondius is my favorite coin to collect. Only a bit smaller than the sestertius, with their often brassy appearance, they are beautiful but noticeably less expensive than their larger sestertius cousins and their portraits are much larger than the denarii. My avatar is dupondius.
     
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  8. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Here are some of my Domitian middle bronzes that came in affordable:

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    Domitian (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze As
    IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XV CENS PER P P - Laureate head right
    FORTVNAE AVGVSTI S-C - Fortuna standing left, holding rudder and cornucopiae.
    Exergue:


    Mint: Rome (90-91 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 10.89g / 27mm / 5h
    References:
    RIC II 707
    Provenances:
    London Ancient Coins (LAC)
    Acquisition/Sale: London Ancient Coins (LAC) Internet $0.00 10/19
    Notes: Nov 5, 19 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection

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    Domitian (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze As
    IMP CAES DOMITIAN AVG GERM COS XI - Laureate bust right, wearing aegis
    IOVI - CONSERVAT, S - C - Jupiter standing left, holding thunderbolt and sceptre
    Exergue:


    Mint: Rome (85AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 8.84g / 26.94mm / 180
    Rarity: R2-Rare
    References:
    RIC II 302 Rome
    BMCRE 313A
    Paris 336
    Provenances:
    Marc Breitsprecher
    Acquisition/Sale: Marc R. Breitsprecher Internet $0.00 01/18
    Notes: Jan 5, 19 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection

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    Domitian (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze As
    IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XI CENS PER P P - Bust of Domitian, laureate, right with aegis
    MONETA AVGVSTI S-C - Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae.
    Exergue:


    Mint: Rome (85AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 11.55g / 28mm / 180
    References:
    RIC II, Pt 1 (second edition) Domitian 417
    Acquisition/Sale: servuscoins Ebay $0.00 11/17
    Notes: Jan 22, 19 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection
     
  9. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Nerva You Mind

    That coin does have some nice eye appeal. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  10. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Great coins everybody! Alas, I have none to add, but I do have a request. I know it's a little gauche to talk about prices paid for stuff, but, if we're going to say things are "affordable," we should get that out there. What's affordable for me is not necessarily affordable for a college student, and what's affordable for someone who bids on Eid Mar denarii isn't necessarily affordable for me.
     
  11. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Good point Paul M. I Paid $ 20 for this Domitian Virtus As, affordable ?

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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    My sole Domitian did not cost an arm and a leg.

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    I've noticed that the portrait has a bit of an upward gaze like Constantine...
     
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  13. Romancollector

    Romancollector Well-Known Member

    Wonderful acquisition @David Atherton !

    I only have one so-called middle bronze of Domitian, an As, though a dupondius would be a nice addition...You are quite right about the affordability of this category for Domitian. When I saw this coin at a show, randomly among a collection of higher grade tetrarchic folles, I was pleasantly surprised by its price. I just happened to look through the box first, and others at the table asked me to see it once they saw me pull it from the box. In response, I said that I already made up my mind to purchase it...and I am sure glad that I did! It ended up being 1/5 of what I usually spend on sestertii (generally) of the same/similar grade. :happy:


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  14. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    At the last CNG auction I was bidding on two, won one :)and lost one that was a Dupondius:grumpy:, so I was trying to make up for my loss.

    Do you also feel this pain when you lose or am I losing it?

    A Domitian Dupondius was soon coming up. I decided to bid - and I won. It is a common one, and with a flan crack, nevertheless I liked it and it eased a bit my pain. Just hope the crack is not too deep:

    Æ Dupondius, Rome, 86 AD
    28.5 mm, 11.25 g
    Ref.: RIC II 484; BN III, 295, 414;

    Ob.: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XII CENS PER P P, radiate bust right wearing aegis
    Rev.: VIRTVTI AVGVSTI, Virtus wearing long dress, standing right, foot on helmet, holding spear with her r. hand and parazonium with her l. hand; S C

    Pictures from CNG:



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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The middle bronzes of Nerva, Trajan, and Hadrian are quite affordable and often very artistically rendered:

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    Nerva, AD 96-98.
    Roman Æ as, 11.96 g, 26.3 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 97.
    Obv: IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P COS III P P, radiate head, right.
    Rev: LIBERTAS PVBLICA S C, Libertas standing left, holding pileus and scepter.
    Refs: RIC 86; BMCRE 131; Cohen 115; RCV --; ERIC II 152.

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    Hadrian, AD 117-138.
    Roman Æ dupondius, 13.78 g, , 26.1 mm, 7 h.
    Rome, ca. AD 119-124.
    Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG P M TR P COS III, radiate and draped bust, right.
    Rev: PIETAS AVGVSTI, Pietas, veiled, draped, standing facing right before a lighted altar, raising her right hand and holding a box of incense in her left.
    Refs: RIC 601c; BMCRE 1233-34; Cohen 1044; Strack 542; RCV 3665; Hill 257.
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice, @David Atherton ...

    I have always enjoyed my Dupondius of his father.

    His 's'-eating grin emulates his personality and is fitting to Felicitas on the reverse.

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    Vespasian, AD 69-79
    Æ Dupondius, 12.2g, 27mm, 6h; Rome mint, AD 73.
    Obv.: IMP CAES VESP AVG PM TP COS IIII CENS; Radiate head left.
    Rev.: Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia, S - C
    Reference: RIC II 539(b), p. 78
    Ex: @John Anthony
     
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