A Dichalkon of Kushan King Kujula Kadphises, Mkay?

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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    Anybody else have Zebus and Bactrian camels in their menagerie? :cigar:
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coin & camel. My only Kushan is this common Tet.

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    Kushans, Vima Taktu ("Soter Megas”) (80 - 100 A.D.)
    Æ Tetradrachm
    O: No legend. Diademed, radiate bust right, holding scepter; behind, tamgha; 12 rays above head.
    R: BACIΛEV BACIΛEVWNCWTHP MEΓAC ("King of Kings, the Great Savior"). Horseman right, holding whip; before, tamgha.
    20mm
    9.09g
    MACW 2935 ("Taxila series").

    The actual name of the Kushan king called by the epithet "Soter Megas"("Great Savior") on his coins was unknown until the 1993 discovery of an inscription at Rabatak in Afghanistan, written by the Kushan king Kanishka. The Rabatak inscription lists the lineage of Kushan kings who had ruled up to that time: his great-grandfather Kujula Kadphises; his grandfather, Vima Taktu, his father, Vima Kadphises; and himself, Kanishka. Mention is seemingly also made of Vima Taktu in the Chinese chronicle Hou Hanshu, in relation to his father, Kujula Kadphises:

    “Qiujiuque [Kujula Kadphises] was more than eighty years old when he died. His son, Yangaozhen [apparently Vima Taktu] became king in his place. He defeated Tianzhu [northwestern India] and installed generals to supervise and lead it. The Yuezhi then became extremely rich. All the kingdoms call [their king] the Guishuang[Kushan] king, but the Han call them by their original name, Da Yuezhi”.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice example though, great eye appeal!
     
  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    wow...a double hump camel..kool JA!:) i don't think i have one of those types, but i do have a few India(Indo-Greek)(right?!?) coins.. i have only one coin with a camel on it, but you know that one :rolleyes:...
     
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    NICE combo pack @John Anthony ! Looks great...

    I have Zebu:
    Baktria Apollodotos I 180-160 BCE Square AR Drachm 20mm 2.4g Elephant Zebu SNG ANS 324-327.JPG
    Baktria Apollodotos I 180-160 BCE Square AR Drachm 20mm 2.4g Elephant Zebu SNG ANS 324-327


    And a CAMEL:
    RI Trajan CE 98-117 AR drachm Struck CE 114-116 Arabia Petraea Bostra - Camel SNG ANS 1158.JPG
    RI Trajan CE 98-117 AR drachm Struck CE 114-116 Arabia Petraea Bostra - Camel SNG ANS 1158

    Cool! I think my gregarious camel has a double-hump, too, @ominus1 :)
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    hehe...yup, he shore does :smuggrin:
     
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  8. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Awesome camel!!

    My ex x6 zebu has Sesame Street on TV behind it. "Z is for Zebu."

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    Azes (58-20 BCE), AE unit
     
  9. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Thank you, John! great post. This is my only camel and although not Bactrian, it's my only Roman Republic coin.

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  10. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Artist & Historian Supporter

    Great coin, @Severus Alexander ! I was fortunate to have acquired one also. I think it was the Azes II connection that sold me.

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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I may just have purchased one of these today, I'll see when it arrives. I've got a herd of Zebu's, but I'm short on camels!

    Here's a recently photographed Zebu.

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    Indo-Scythian AE unit, Azes, 1st century BC

    O: King mounted on horse right, holding spear, Greek legend around: BAΣIΛEΩΣ BAΣIΛEΩN MEΓAΛOY / AZOY R: Humped bull standing right, monograms above, Kharoshthi legend. 20 mm, 9.5 g.
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    No camels but here's an elephant and zebu!

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    Apollodotos I, Backtria, 174-165 BC
    AR, drachm, 14mm, 1.4g
    Obv.: BAΣIΛEΩΣ AΠOΛΛOΔOTOY SΩTHPOΣ; Elephant standing right, MI monogram below
    Rev.: Maharajasa Apaladatasa tradarasa (Karosthi script); Zebu standing right, Karosthi legend around, MI monogram below
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is this the same and centered differently or a different coin? I believe they are the same and we only need a dozen other carefully selected coins to get the entire legend.
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  14. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Zebu?
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    I didn't know it was a Zebu until now, but here's another example of the coin as shared by @Deacon Ray and @Severus Alexander with some monogram differences. Interesting to note that on this coin AZOY (Azes) is misspelled (AOZY).
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    Azes, 57-12 BC, Indo-Scythians, AE Tetradrachm, 13.5g, 26 mm
    I have the picture backwards.
    Rev: MAHARAJASA RAJARAJASA MAHATASA AYASA, in Karosthi, lion or leopard standing right. Monogram above.
    Obv: BASLIEWS BASILEWN MEGALOU AZOU, zebu (humped bull) standing right, monogram Whitehead 33 above (resembling a B in a square)

    Does anyone know if there is a definitive answer on whether or not there was one Azes or two? The RC Senior books (2001) only reference Azes.
     
  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Note to self: must acquire square drachm with critters on it for the Eclectic Box.

    (Pulls crumpled checklist from pocket)

    Aha, I see that was already jotted down on my to-do list a month or so ago. Just hasn't happened yet.

    (Like most things on my to-do lists...)
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Autocorrect tried to make me have that post say "... must acquire square Dracula..."

    That would be interesting. Especially a tetraDracula or the ever-elusive dekaDracula.

    BTW, @John Anthony - great alliteration in the title, there!
     
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  17. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    Beautiful. I have many Roman Republic coins but nothing that looks like this. Most of them are with the god Roma in the obverse.
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The jury is still out on that one. Unfortunately the Indo-Scythians were not famous for keeping written records.

    You might have trouble finding a piece worthy of your box - they're not the most well-struck and well-preserved coins in the world.
     
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  19. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Thanks - apparently even not that well known in early Imperial Rome:

    "Azes sent envoys to Augustus in 26 BC proposing a political alliance. Suetonius records that these 'Indo-Scythians' (Sakas) were from nations previously known to us only through hearsay and they petitioned for an alliance (amicitia) with Augustus and the Roman people. In earlier times the Sakas had been able to field 20,000 mounted archers, but Azes probably commanded only a fraction of this fighting force. Orosius suggests that the Saka ambassadors expected a western war against Persia and came to praise the Emperor with the glory of Alexander the Great. To emphasize his connection to Hellenic culture, Azes issued currency displaying images of the goddess Athena and used Greek titles referring to himself as The Great King of Kings'. He sent further envoys to the Emperor in 22 BC who delivered a royal letter written in Greek pledging that Azes was 'ready to allow Augustus passage through his country'"


    The Roman Empire and the Silk Routes
    By Raoul McLaughlin

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    Obv: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΟΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΟΝ ΜΕΓΑΛΟΥ AZOY. Armored scythian King on horseback right, holding elephant goad, karoshthi letter in field right.
    Rev: Karoshthi legend (Maharajasa rajarajasa mahatasa ayasa). Athena standing right holding spear and shield. Monograms on field.
    Azes Tetradrachm
    9.7g, 23mm
     
  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is not a question with a definitive answer.
    http://coinindia.com/galleries-azes1.html

    Mine is also an Azes II type if there are two but shows Poseidon.
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  21. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    I can't resist adding one more zebu to the thread:
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    Obv: Demeter or City Goddess standing left, holding cornucopia, Greek legend around: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANIKHTOY ΦIΛOΧENOY (King Philoxenus Anicetus)

    Reverse Humped bull standing right, monogram below, Kharoshthi legend around: Maharajasa apadihatasa Philasinasa (Invincible King Philoxenus)

    Date: c. 100-95 BCE

    Weight: 7.7g

    Dimensions 19x19 mm
     
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