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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5246699, member: 56653"]Thank you so much for adding your specimens. I also think that [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] 's spec is from Arles and I think you can see a ghost of the first S in the exergue, despite being mostly off flan. </p><p><br /></p><p>To exemplify what I meant about the specifically and remarkably Constantinian bust, here are some examples from the coinage of 330-333 and 335:</p><p><br /></p><p>Constantine I:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218480[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218481[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218482[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218483[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218484[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Constantine II:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218494[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218489[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Constantius II:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218497[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>and Constans:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1218496[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What we can notice is that, although there is clearly a common style and some familiarity in the busts of Constantine and his sons, there is also variability that makes the sons different from their father. Their busts are more youthful and smaller. But when it comes to Dalmatius in the OP, there is virtually no fizionomical difference between his effigy and the median Constantine I effigy from the period, apart from the obvious head gear that separates between Augustus and Caesar. Also, despite being as young as 15 when he was elevated by Constantine, Dalmatius is rendered with a larger and more Constantinian bust than his sons, despite being younger than both Constantine and Constantius. The obverse legend is also broken in a similar manner to Constantine's (which leaves the die cutter more room for a larger bust) while his sons all have the unbroken obverse legends. Additionally, the bust of Constantine is not "teleported" onto this issue for Dalmatius -- the head gear is clearly different showing the distinction in status between the two figures. If a die cutter would have shown Dalmatius with the ornate diadem of Constantine, he would have probably been in some trouble. What the die cutter did was to give Constantine's effigy an earlier laurel head gear and present it as Dalmatius, the new European Caesar.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 5246699, member: 56653"]Thank you so much for adding your specimens. I also think that [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] 's spec is from Arles and I think you can see a ghost of the first S in the exergue, despite being mostly off flan. To exemplify what I meant about the specifically and remarkably Constantinian bust, here are some examples from the coinage of 330-333 and 335: Constantine I: [ATTACH=full]1218480[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1218481[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1218482[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1218483[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1218484[/ATTACH] Constantine II: [ATTACH=full]1218494[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1218489[/ATTACH] Constantius II: [ATTACH=full]1218497[/ATTACH] and Constans: [ATTACH=full]1218496[/ATTACH] What we can notice is that, although there is clearly a common style and some familiarity in the busts of Constantine and his sons, there is also variability that makes the sons different from their father. Their busts are more youthful and smaller. But when it comes to Dalmatius in the OP, there is virtually no fizionomical difference between his effigy and the median Constantine I effigy from the period, apart from the obvious head gear that separates between Augustus and Caesar. Also, despite being as young as 15 when he was elevated by Constantine, Dalmatius is rendered with a larger and more Constantinian bust than his sons, despite being younger than both Constantine and Constantius. The obverse legend is also broken in a similar manner to Constantine's (which leaves the die cutter more room for a larger bust) while his sons all have the unbroken obverse legends. Additionally, the bust of Constantine is not "teleported" onto this issue for Dalmatius -- the head gear is clearly different showing the distinction in status between the two figures. If a die cutter would have shown Dalmatius with the ornate diadem of Constantine, he would have probably been in some trouble. What the die cutter did was to give Constantine's effigy an earlier laurel head gear and present it as Dalmatius, the new European Caesar.[/QUOTE]
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