A Counterfeit Henning nickel counterfeit???

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  1. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/131166840016?nav=SEARCH

    Ebay listing for a "35% silver 1941 Henning nickel".... He says all Henning nickels are 35% silver like the real ones and he has one dated 1941. Anyone else see anything wrong with this? My understanding is they have no silver in them and none dated 1941. He says he looked it up on Wikipedia. He won't hear anything I gave to say. Am I missing something?
     
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  3. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    No it's probably just a regular nickel.
     
  4. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Seller doesn't believe me

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  5. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Seller = idiot
     
  6. sergeant

    sergeant Not a Member

    Looks like a worn coin.
     
  7. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    There are no 35% silver Henning nickels. He made them of a composition very close to the actual composition of the pre and post war coins - close enough that the blanks were allegedly sent by the FBI to the Philly mint where they were subsequently struck into coins. With the 1944 dated Henning there are two varieties known now, one with the divot in the R of E Pluribus Unum, and the other without the divot. Both do not have the usual large mintmark on the reverse.

    Here is an example with the divot in the R variety:

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    Sometime I will image the other known variety and post it.
     
  8. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    I have been going back and forth with the seller. He is asking me where I get my info because it is wrong. I told him to post closeup pics of the "R" and he wont, but keeps telling me I am wrong. Maybe of others say something to him too he will get the idea.

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  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Don't argue with fools.
     
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  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    It's not worth it...he is wrong, let it go. You're not going to convince him.

    FWIW, 1941 is not a year that is associated with Henning nickels. From my research, the known years are 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947, and 1953. Of course, the 1944 is the most famous. Also, not all Henning Nickels had the louped R.
     
  11. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Yep. He is doing everything to try to convince me but can't show me proof. It's becoming like a game now. He is so sold on it being real.

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  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    It's possible be truly believe what he has...or he knows better and is trying to convince you otherwise. Either way, you can't win. Plus, it sold already.
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I think the seller is just trolling you dude.
     
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  14. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, he just sent me a YouTube video link to Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up

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  15. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    i am at a loss, what is a henning nickel??
     
  16. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Not sure, but I bet it is way different than one of these [​IMG]
     
  17. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    He Rick-Rolled you?? Wow. I must admit though, that is pretty funny. :joyful:
     
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  18. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Well, someone just bought a regular worn out nickel for $12. No silver content, no Henning nickel and no value. The buyer will be posting soon on some coin board....Just bought this Henning Nickel on eBay, what's it worth?
     
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  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Francis LeRoy Henning was a famous counterfeiter of nickels in the mid 20th century. His counterfeits were so good, they can still sometimes be found in circulation today.
     
  20. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Rarely though. Most of them were picked out of circulation in the 1950s and early 1960s. I have gone through hundreds of thousands of nickels in roll searches and a Henning has eluded me.
     
  21. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    CamaroDMD answered your question but let me add something to the urban legend of Francis LeRoy Henning. He counterfeited nickels in the 1950s.

    A 1944 nickel was found that did not have the large mint mark located over the dome of Monticello. Coin collectors found this to be more than odd & the treasury department concluded that the no mint mark 1944 coins were counterfeit. With the treasury department on his heels, Mr. Henning went on the run & allegedly dumped a pile of his counterfeit coins in a New Jersey river when eluding capture/prosecution. He was caught & convicted of counterfeiting.
     
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