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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2166138, member: 19463"]It hurts me a little that there is more interest in the hole than the coin. My first page on the type was lumped with the other Alexandrian 'new discoveries' in 1998. </p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac74per.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac74per.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac74per.html</a></p><p>When I got mine, I was aware of three but there have been a lot since then (I really don't have a number but ten seems possible). There may be as many of the other type with Consecratio reverse but what seems like a lifetime obverse (very unusual). I'll never have one of those because they are so well known in the trade as special items. The Libertas can show up as a sleeper.</p><p><br /></p><p>Curtis Clay is the expert on these now that Roger Bickford-Smith is gone. Roger's 1994 pamphlet/article showed the Consecratio and mentioned but did not illustrate the Libertas.</p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/comalex.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Curtis believes the coin may be in preparation for a visit to the city by Commodus in 192. I see the possibility that both types are postumous possibly dating to a time when the mint did not know who to back between Septimius and Pescennius. Alexandria mint coins of Pescennius Niger are turbo-rare so the decision did not take long. I don't see how we will ever know. My tendency to accept the Commodus as first of the bunch is partly due to the very odd use of R for both B and P on the reverse. The Alexandria Pertinax denarii are more standardly inscribed but I see no proof that the Pertinax coins were lifetime and may have been issued when the city was 'confused' as to who would be worth supporting in the civil war. Septimius was very hard on cities that made the wrong choice so Alexandria got credit for being correct from the start even if a few coins to the contrary were made. Perhaps Septimius never knew about them???</p><p><br /></p><p>The whole idea of a denarius mint at Alexandria started in 1921 by Laffranchi who noted the (now) obvious stylistic comparison of tetradrachms and denarii. By the time of the publication of volume V of the British Museum Catalog, most people accepted it but the editors still placed a (?) after the city name. The idea of Alexandria mint coins for Pertinax, Albinus and Commodus came to me from Bickford-Smith but I have no proof one way or the other if it was original to him. </p><p><br /></p><p>I really have not kept up since Roger died. Recognition of the mints became common among quality dealers in the early 2000's and the prices pushed me out of the market for the most part. Roger Bickford-Smith told me before he died that he estimated the total population for all types of Alexandria mint denarii in the neighborhood of 300. Today, I suspect that is off by a power of ten but there are many rare ones in the group. Below are a few showing the some basic styles for Septimius:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]417521[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417522[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417523[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417524[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417525[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Below is a tetradrachm of Domna from year two (194) and a denarius showing the style suggesting the denarii were from that mint. I do not own a Septimius tetradrachm.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]417526[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417529[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2166138, member: 19463"]It hurts me a little that there is more interest in the hole than the coin. My first page on the type was lumped with the other Alexandrian 'new discoveries' in 1998. [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/feac74per.html[/url] When I got mine, I was aware of three but there have been a lot since then (I really don't have a number but ten seems possible). There may be as many of the other type with Consecratio reverse but what seems like a lifetime obverse (very unusual). I'll never have one of those because they are so well known in the trade as special items. The Libertas can show up as a sleeper. Curtis Clay is the expert on these now that Roger Bickford-Smith is gone. Roger's 1994 pamphlet/article showed the Consecratio and mentioned but did not illustrate the Libertas. [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/comalex.jpg[/IMG] Curtis believes the coin may be in preparation for a visit to the city by Commodus in 192. I see the possibility that both types are postumous possibly dating to a time when the mint did not know who to back between Septimius and Pescennius. Alexandria mint coins of Pescennius Niger are turbo-rare so the decision did not take long. I don't see how we will ever know. My tendency to accept the Commodus as first of the bunch is partly due to the very odd use of R for both B and P on the reverse. The Alexandria Pertinax denarii are more standardly inscribed but I see no proof that the Pertinax coins were lifetime and may have been issued when the city was 'confused' as to who would be worth supporting in the civil war. Septimius was very hard on cities that made the wrong choice so Alexandria got credit for being correct from the start even if a few coins to the contrary were made. Perhaps Septimius never knew about them??? The whole idea of a denarius mint at Alexandria started in 1921 by Laffranchi who noted the (now) obvious stylistic comparison of tetradrachms and denarii. By the time of the publication of volume V of the British Museum Catalog, most people accepted it but the editors still placed a (?) after the city name. The idea of Alexandria mint coins for Pertinax, Albinus and Commodus came to me from Bickford-Smith but I have no proof one way or the other if it was original to him. I really have not kept up since Roger died. Recognition of the mints became common among quality dealers in the early 2000's and the prices pushed me out of the market for the most part. Roger Bickford-Smith told me before he died that he estimated the total population for all types of Alexandria mint denarii in the neighborhood of 300. Today, I suspect that is off by a power of ten but there are many rare ones in the group. Below are a few showing the some basic styles for Septimius: [ATTACH=full]417521[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417522[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417523[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417524[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417525[/ATTACH] Below is a tetradrachm of Domna from year two (194) and a denarius showing the style suggesting the denarii were from that mint. I do not own a Septimius tetradrachm. [ATTACH=full]417526[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]417529[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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