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<p>[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 4062906, member: 44357"]This type has been on my wantlist for many years but I've only had a couple opportunities to attempt to buy one and hadn't succeeded. It never comes beautiful and, to [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] 's thread on "Condition and price balance", I wouldn't be 5x happier to buy the finest known (real) example which is just a bit nicer but at 5x the cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was the underbidder but never saw the coin in person (I had a dealer view and represent me). Upon seeing it at the NYINC show last month, I was willing to give the winning dealer a modest profit and finally cross an important type off my list.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin depicts the story of Noah, including the dove, his wife, and the ark itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>It shows how Noah and his wife standing in the ark floating on the water, first sending out a raven and later a dove (to get information about the current status of the flood) and how they thank God for their rescue after leaving the ark. These successive events are artfully drawn together into a single scene in the reverse. A mural or a relief on a building in the city may have been a common inspiration for the various coin depictions: showing two frames of a scene makes this a novel and distinct artistic execution and very atypical relative to other scenes depicted on coins, closer in form to papyrus or reliefs.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's a large coin - 34mm - and a challenge to photograph. I'll eventually try again but this is at least decently representative of what it looks like in-hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1063052[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Many cultures have written flood myths, starting with "Gilgamesh of Uruk" in 3000 BC. In that myth, "Noah" was called Utnapishtim but the main thematic elements have noticeable similarities.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roma wrote a nice description of the type recently:</p><p><br /></p><p>"This reverse depiction of the Noah and the Ark saga is the only event recorded in the Old Testament to be commemorated on an ancient coin and is unique to Apameia, Phrygia. Founded by Antiochus I in 270 BC, the city was well located at the source of the Maeander and the central point from which many trade routes were accessed. Goods arriving from the caravan routes in the east were purchased in bulk by the city's merchants and repackaged into kibotoi (chests) to be forwarded to other ports. The distinctive wooden shipping crates became the symbol of the city's economic activity and eventually the city was known by the nickname 'ή Kίβωtός' (the chest).</p><p><br /></p><p>A local myth claimed, perhaps by the large Jewish community living within the city, that the mountain situated behind the city was Ararat, the place where Noah's ark (ή Kίβωtός) rested after the deluge. The depiction of Noah and his wife standing within an Apamean kibotos floating above water and inscribed 'NΩE' (Noah) is a visual representation of the connection between the Old Testament parable and the city itself. This reverse type provides visual evidence for the double meaning of the city nickname 'ή Kίβωtός' as both chest and ark."</p><p><br /></p><p>In his "100 Greatest" book, HJB says there are fewer than 20 surviving examples; I think that's under-estimated but it's undoubtedly a rare type.</p><p><br /></p><p>While there are some obvious problems (reverse smoothing and metal pitting), there are some positives: the dove is fully visible, as are Noah and his wife, and you can make out just a bit of the "NΩЄ" legend written on the ark, which is admittedly more visible in-hand (above my red underlines):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1063048[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been offered two "nice" examples with better metal quality or fewer problems but they were still far from perfect. In this scenario, I was willing to accept a couple tradeoffs in condition in favor of owning an important, historical coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps I'll upgrade it eventually but a dove in the hand is worth two in the bush.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 4062906, member: 44357"]This type has been on my wantlist for many years but I've only had a couple opportunities to attempt to buy one and hadn't succeeded. It never comes beautiful and, to [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] 's thread on "Condition and price balance", I wouldn't be 5x happier to buy the finest known (real) example which is just a bit nicer but at 5x the cost. I was the underbidder but never saw the coin in person (I had a dealer view and represent me). Upon seeing it at the NYINC show last month, I was willing to give the winning dealer a modest profit and finally cross an important type off my list. This coin depicts the story of Noah, including the dove, his wife, and the ark itself. It shows how Noah and his wife standing in the ark floating on the water, first sending out a raven and later a dove (to get information about the current status of the flood) and how they thank God for their rescue after leaving the ark. These successive events are artfully drawn together into a single scene in the reverse. A mural or a relief on a building in the city may have been a common inspiration for the various coin depictions: showing two frames of a scene makes this a novel and distinct artistic execution and very atypical relative to other scenes depicted on coins, closer in form to papyrus or reliefs. It's a large coin - 34mm - and a challenge to photograph. I'll eventually try again but this is at least decently representative of what it looks like in-hand. [ATTACH=full]1063052[/ATTACH] Many cultures have written flood myths, starting with "Gilgamesh of Uruk" in 3000 BC. In that myth, "Noah" was called Utnapishtim but the main thematic elements have noticeable similarities. Roma wrote a nice description of the type recently: "This reverse depiction of the Noah and the Ark saga is the only event recorded in the Old Testament to be commemorated on an ancient coin and is unique to Apameia, Phrygia. Founded by Antiochus I in 270 BC, the city was well located at the source of the Maeander and the central point from which many trade routes were accessed. Goods arriving from the caravan routes in the east were purchased in bulk by the city's merchants and repackaged into kibotoi (chests) to be forwarded to other ports. The distinctive wooden shipping crates became the symbol of the city's economic activity and eventually the city was known by the nickname 'ή Kίβωtός' (the chest). A local myth claimed, perhaps by the large Jewish community living within the city, that the mountain situated behind the city was Ararat, the place where Noah's ark (ή Kίβωtός) rested after the deluge. The depiction of Noah and his wife standing within an Apamean kibotos floating above water and inscribed 'NΩE' (Noah) is a visual representation of the connection between the Old Testament parable and the city itself. This reverse type provides visual evidence for the double meaning of the city nickname 'ή Kίβωtός' as both chest and ark." In his "100 Greatest" book, HJB says there are fewer than 20 surviving examples; I think that's under-estimated but it's undoubtedly a rare type. While there are some obvious problems (reverse smoothing and metal pitting), there are some positives: the dove is fully visible, as are Noah and his wife, and you can make out just a bit of the "NΩЄ" legend written on the ark, which is admittedly more visible in-hand (above my red underlines): [ATTACH=full]1063048[/ATTACH] I've been offered two "nice" examples with better metal quality or fewer problems but they were still far from perfect. In this scenario, I was willing to accept a couple tradeoffs in condition in favor of owning an important, historical coin. Perhaps I'll upgrade it eventually but a dove in the hand is worth two in the bush.[/QUOTE]
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