A "circulated" Bashlow CSA cent restrike?

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  1. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    Hello all, I seek your expertise and input once more. I was sent these photos from a colleague who regards me as an old coin expert. (But he's right only about the "old" part, I assure you). This looks like a Bashlow restrike of the 1861 Confederate cent. The hammer and chisel marks are obvious. But I've only seen "clean and sharp" versions, for obviously the restrikes were never circulated. So this one got me stumped. It looks worn down. Is it a replica? I even see the "L" on the lower right corner of the cotton bale on the reverse. Would welcome our input and comments. Thank you in advance for the education. Bashlow1.jpg Bashlow2.jpg
     
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  3. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i've got a couple of these Bashlow restrikes, but i can't imagine why its worn, other than maybe someone carried it for good luck..it'd be a expensive penny
     
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  4. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    Thanks Ominus1 for your input. That's the thing... even if someone had carried it around as a charm, it would not have worn down so badly. I have a "Sheriff Star" aluminum token I found as a kid which I've been carrying around in my wallet for decades and it's still in great shape because it's never been circulated. Can you tell if this is a casting from a mold?
     
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  5. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    I do not like the texture of the surfaces, but they were made in several different metals. Here are my brass ( center) and goldine (right). the left one is a fantasy coin that often comes up here. I think the chances are higher it is not a true restrike than that is is. JIm

    confedobv.JPG confedrev.JPG
     
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  6. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    They're all quite nice indeed! Your restrikes are clean and sharp, whereas the reliefs on the one in the photo sent to me are very worn down. I know the restrikes were done in around 1961 and that was some time ago. But keeping in mind that these aren't in circulation, I wonder about the wear shown. Even numerous actual coins in circulation for 50+ years seem to be in better condition. Well, this one continues to be a puzzle and I cannot help my friend with a good explanation/hypothesis. I hope others can provide some insight.
     
  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    it's looks to me like a legit Bashlow restrike, maybe just a patina on it..here's my 2..i think mine are legit, but i could be wrong Bashlow restrikes 001.JPG Bashlow restrikes 003.JPG Bashlow restrikes 002.JPG Bashlow restrikes 004.JPG Bashlow restrikes 005.JPG
     
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  8. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    Here is an article that lists 9 confirmed materials he struck these cents. Lead and Zinc , which could possible oxidize to that color are mentioned. Both would also wear rather rapidly.
    https://coinsite.com/1861-confederate-cent/
     
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  9. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    I see! Thanks very much.
     
  10. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    The newspaper article caught my attention. By "letters" were they referring to some sort of "mintmark" ON the coin, or to correspondence ABOUT the coin?
     
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  11. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    I am fairly sure, it is correspondence. If you want a lot of info ( much the same) from the internet, search the following phrase - levi coin world bashlow cent - and you can read for quite a while :) Jim
     
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  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    well, i'm not sure, i need to reread it again, it's been 12 years or so since i got that with the coin... i'll do it and post again later.:) Edit: what desertgem said too
     
  13. JeffC

    JeffC Active Member

    Thanks very much for the link. I'll read through for sure. Appreciate it.
     
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  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    All three (the OP coin and the two in post #6) are copies, not Bashlow pieces.
     
  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..remember, these are just opinions given on here... they may or may not be correct... for clarity on your friends coin, have him send it to NGC for their "professional" opinion..:)
     
  17. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    I agree with Conder - these look like copies and not actual Bashlow restrikes.
     
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