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Owch... CoinCraft (the overpriced catalogue) states £26 in VF. (Spinks would be lower)

£75 in EF. Now unless it's a variety i'm not used to then you are paying over double the value there.

 

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You won't be disappointed with Marrons.

I've had many many nice coins from there over the years, he doesn't sell junk. If you like mid to high grade non-gold coins from 1816-1970 then he's your man.

Sadly i now only collect pre-1816 silver/tin coins and the only coins after 1816 that i really bother with is gold... so he's not much use to me these days.

 

Here it is... VF come GVF. VF in scan, A-GVF in person. Lets call it VF+




I never though i'd get this one anywhere near this grade. Actually i was beginning to wonder if i'd get this one at all.

 

I'm happy!

 

very nice
soon ya will have the whole set then what?

you gonna go for a set one side of it

 

see this is where i get confused about grading very much

you rated the 1787 sixpence i show lesser grade than the one you just got but clearly the 1787 is much stronger.so i have a question

why does the 1787 get a lower grading when its obviously sharper with no worn/missing areas ?

is it to do with the date being the one you got is rarer?

please explain someone

 

Well i'm working on two sets at the minute... slowly.

A date/variety run of 1674-1787 sixpences in the best grades i can afford i don't like anything below VF though, so i get a bit upset when i only come across an AVF one, i usually let it go unless it's a scarce/rare date, then i buy with view to upgrade.

The second set is a monarch set from Æthelred II - George III, one coin from each monarch from 978-1820.

After those are done i think i'll try George III guineas. Onwe day i will collect them Vicky shield reverse sovereigns but i'll never get around to it!

 

Because the 1787 was not a strong one... the hair was virtually worn away, once you've seen a high grade one you'll know what i mean...

It should look like this. (look at the Laurels and the hair). [no i'm not using different grading standards]. (William & Mary ones are in higher relief so a bit of wear shows more readily, than the same on a Geo III) This is a EF one...



This is AEF...



Now maybe your sixpence is better than the image shows (that can happen) but look how the tone picks out the detail and shows it more strongly, your's has the same kinda tone but the detail still looks weak...

hence why i said GF/AVF (Which isn't much below my VF 94).

 

that one you showed looks great

i would have thought that to be ef+ i can see what you mean though,seems best way is to know what it should look like in uncirculated then work your way back.


guess i should go hunt down some uncirculated vici ones to see what there like


what grade would you give the old head 1887 ?

 

That's exactly how you learn how to grade... see what it looks like in UNC and work you're way back, now maybe you can see why i said GF to the one you showed (i know some dealers that would grade it AF).

I'll just go and take a look at the jubilee head one.

 

Hmm the Jubilee one is kind between two grades, i think it's between GF and AVF, i would hasve said AVF, but if you look on the reverse at the lions in the shield they are very worn for an AVF specimen. So i'll grade it with two grades (you'll see this occasionally)

AVF/GF (AVF obverse, GF reverse) You may think the reverse looks better but the reverse is in lower relief than the obverse so should not be so worn for a VF specimen, the obverse being in higher relief has faired better though.

So AVF/GF (Net grade AVF)

 

the harp strings seem the thing to look out for

 

Look at the Lions for F to VF, harp VF to EF. Looks like the harp is higher relief to me. (I think it is actually).

The thing with grading is that you soon learn where the high points are. The high points are the first thing to look for, if you want highest grade possible see what the high points are like, if you can't see them cos they've gone then give it a miss. There are always other coins. Vicky sixpences are always on the market you'll not have too many problems.

 

ive just looked at the 1887 it has the strings very sharp to guess didint come up in the photo well

here will host elsewhere get better pics
hold on

 

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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr how cant i get the size up