A beginner collection of the Nerva-Antonines

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by thejewk, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    I started collecting last November or December, with an immediate focus on Marcus Aurelius and his relations, but that quickly expanded to cover the period from Nerva to Commodus due to the rich history and (mostly) high reputation of the empire throughout the 2nd Century CE. Yesterday I hit my first milestone and secured a Nerva denarius, resulting in at least one coin from each emperor.

    Coin tray 1.jpg Coin tray 2.jpg Coin tray 3.jpg Coin tray 4.jpg

    This seemed a natural first goal, but as I have researched the time period, and come to be a little more familiar with the types of each figure, it became clear that one each would never be enough. You can already see Trajan represented twice, and a handsome Faustina.

    My next goals are to have an example of each emperor in denarii, sestertii and middle bronze. Additionally, although my beginnings were a little haphazard, I am becoming more focused now on types that seem to me to be historically appropriate or representative in some way, although I am a sucker for attractive portraiture and will still jump at a common type with good style.

    Also, although Trajan's relations are well out of budget and reach, it seems like from Sabina onwards, one of each type for the female relations seems achievable.

    Additionally, some of the most attractive portraiture from Antoninus onwards comes in the form of Caesar issues, and we mustn't forget the unique types available only on the divus/diva issues.

    Finally, I definitely want a selection of the quadrans and semis that were issued up until the time of Marcus.

    The only coin in my collection and not shown here is a humble Antoninus Pius aes from Antioch, and I hope to expand from that one coin to a decent selection of provincial coinage during the 2nd Century, considering the wide variety of interesting types, provinical gods, etc.

    This has been so far achieved on a very modest budget of around £30 a month (although I am in debt until October thanks to the Nerva) and birthday/Christmas gifts in the form of money.

    How are your collections taking shape? Have you changed focus over the last year or so? What are you currently focused on? Please share anything you feel relevant.
     
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  3. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Wow. That is an impressive grouping for a "beginning collector" - very handsome, well-selected coins.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    You're off to a great start with some lovely coins!

    Don't forget the emperor that almost was -- Aelius!

    Aelius Spes sestertius.jpg

    The adoptive emperors are a great area to collect! The economy was good and the political situation was stable. This makes for a great variety and amount of coins produced and a large supply of well-circulated and affordable -- yet appealing -- coins for the collector of average means.

    While I collect the entire Roman area, including provincials, I have a few favorite subcollections -- Antonine women, Nerva, dual-portrait coins, Severan women, the "barracks emperors," and coins depicting pagan deities (especially Venus and Cybele). Lately, I've been focusing on Faustina I, Julia Domna and Julia Mamaea, and Trebonianus Gallus and Volusian.
     
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  5. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Marsyas Mike

    I'd forgotten Aelius in my write up @Roman Collector , so thanks for the reminder! I have spotted a few so far that were potential options, but never anything that I was entirely happy with in my price range. There seems to be a lot of very rough middle bronze coins of Aelius about, and anything else goes for quite a bit more. Yours is a lovely example that I would have snatched up.

    I initially thought I was going to have to avoid the big ole orichalcum sestertii due to the price, but I soon found out that, as you quite rightly point out, many sestertii were produced during this era which has led to an abundance of really attractive 'fine' coins with smooth surfaces available for about the same price as a nice denarius. I'll never be able to collect the more unique types of the big boys in nicer grades, but there are plenty of beautiful coins for the budget focused buyer willing to brave ebay and do a lot of study.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yep! You need a big ol' Faustina I sestertius, too! Coins like this are within your budget. Faustina Sr AVGVSTA Vesta standing sestertius.jpg
    Faustina Sr AETERNITAS Aeternitas seated sestertius.jpg
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice set so far, love the bronzes.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Quite a nice set and it looks great in the black tray! Very impressive :).
     
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  9. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    great collection, or start to a collection. Make sure to put your ID on the tags in your trays. That way in 50 years when the collection is sold, there will be a named provinence. I would love to see a staid British auctioneer state: this coin is from @thejewk collection.
     
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  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Sweet @thejewk . That's a rather impressive collection you got there. I wouldn't call it modest.

    I pretty much have them all too, so rather than posting them all, here's my favorite. I just love that portrait of Lucius Verus.

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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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    RI Faustina Sr 138-140 CE after 146 CE DIVA AR Denarius m Antoninus Pius 17.4mm 3.2g Ceres torch fold RIC 362 RSC 104


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    RI Faustina Jr 161-175 CE Ar Denarius m Marcus Aurelius 17-1mm 3g

    Ex: @Brian Bucklan ’ Bargain Bin (great guy)
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I applaud your ability to pick a specialty, maybe in another year it will further expand to include all Roman coins?

    My ancient coin collection lacks focus and is guided by impulse. What I've noticed is there are areas that seem to organically grow like Caracalla's provincials or military themes. This year I wanted to focus more on Byzantine coins and put together a mint set from Constantine with the GLORIA EXERCITVS reverse.

    My Byzantine additions this year:

    JWT 189 Justinian I Theoupolis.JPG
    Justinian I, Byzantine Empire, 527 - 565 AD
    AE, follis; 32mm, 14.12g, 6h; Theoupolis (Antioch) mint
    Obv.: DN IVSTINI-ANVS PP AVG; Emperor, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: Large M, star to left, cross above, star to right, officina letter Γ below.
    In Ex.: +THEVPo+
    (Technically this one was purchased last year, but after I made a decision about 2019 goals)

    JWT 203 Justinian I Con.jpg Justinian I, Byzantine Empire, 527 - 565 AD
    AE, follis, 35x37mm, 19g, 1h; Constantinople, 542 - 543 AD
    Obv.: DN IVSTIN-ANVS PP AVG; Emperor, helmeted, cuirassed bust facing holding cross on globe and shield, cross to right.
    Rev.: Large M, ANNO to left, cross above, regnal year ϥ to right, officina letter Є below
    In Ex.: CON
    From the David@PPC collection

    JWT 204 Maurice Tiberius Pentanummium.jpg Maurice Tiberius, Byzantine Empire, 582 - 602 AD
    AE, pentanummium, 13x15mm, 2.27g, 7h; Carthage, 596 - 601 AD
    Obv.: DN MAVR Tib PP AV; Bust right, diademed, wearing cuirass and paludamentum
    Rev.: Cross potent over Є; N left, M right (dot above and below each letter)
    From the David@PPC collection

    JWT 205 Basil II & Constantine VIII Class B Follis.jpg
    Basil II & Constantine VIII, Byzantine Empire, 976 - 1042 AD
    AE, Anonymous Class B follis; 28x24mm, 9.96g, 6h
    Obv.: Facing bust of Christ, nimbate with small square, holding gospels
    Rev.: IS XS above crossbar on either side, bar above letters (denoting an abbreviation) / bAS ILЄ / bAS ILЄ; cross on three steps, three-line legend
     
  13. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Sestertius of Nerva Rv. Fortuna stg left. 97 A.D. RIC 83 28.47 grms 34 mm nervas1.jpg
     
  14. Parthicus Maximus

    Parthicus Maximus Well-Known Member

    Excellent collection! I think it's great how you managed to get this collection together with this budget. I often change focus myself, because I am a very big doubter. At the moment I focus mainly on Trajan and sometimes on the other adoptive emperors. But I also love Flavians and Severans.
     
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  15. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..kool set/collection...now you can expand & or improve.. or find another rabbit hole to go down..:) the 5 good in bronze 004.JPG
     
  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @thejewk

    That is an excellent start to a great collection! I just love the portraits on the Hadrian and Trajan sestertii
     
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  17. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    That is a really good Verus portrait. It seems to me that at the beginning of Marcus Aurelius' reign, starting with the coins for Divus Antoninus, the portraiture became somewhat less consistent than it had been. Starting around then, I find more and more frankly rubbish portraits, often a bit cartoonish and gawky. Many Verus denarii fall into this category. I've looked at many, and a high percentage don't have any eye appeal for me at all.

    I wonder if it is purely a matter of aesthetic tastes on my part.
     
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  18. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Thanks, they were both bargains as well, at around £30 each.
     
  19. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    @Jwt708 I think it was a pure fluke that I picked an era of interest that has all of the things I value in coins in abundance. The only other era that has really spoken to me from a pragmatic perspective of affordability is Republican era bronze. The alterations over time are fascinating and I've spent a lot of time reading up.
     
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  20. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful collection! All are nice, but I really love the bronzes of Verus and young Faustina Jr, and that Divvs Marcus is just stunning!

    I am working on the "all imperial personages" collection; I have a few more within reach, but I'm afraid I'm reaching the glass ceiling - coins I could bid on, but that would do irreparable damage to my marriage and credit score! Some of my more important recent additions:

    Plotina, completing the Nerva Antonines and their wives set (Gordos, Julia)
    Plotina ae gordos julia zeus seated.jpg

    I'm not holding my breath for Marciana or Matidia!

    Next are the PB&J emperors - once they got smushed together, history couldn't really say much about one without mentioning the other...

    They completed my run of uncontested, Senate-approved emperors from Augustus until Valentinian III
    Pupienus antoninianus caritas mvtva avgg.jpg
    Balbinus antoninianus concordia avgg.jpg
    Now I'm only missing Pescennius Niger, and Gordian I & II from the traditional list of emperors... Niger is affordable with planning in lower grade, but I'm not sure about the Gordies.

    To keep my sanity, I did expand my goal from "one of each emperor" to "one of each emperor as Caesar, Augustus, and Divus". Jury's still out on whether that was a good or bad idea, but I did pick up some goodies:

    Pius as Caesar
    Antoninus pius caesar diana standing.jpg

    Faustina Sr. Before she went full Diva
    Fausina senior denarius lifetime concordia.jpg

    Divus Verus
    Divus verus denarius eagle.jpg

    Divus Marcus
    Divus marcus aurelius eagle.jpg

    Diva Faustina Jr
    Diva faustina ii aeternitas.jpg

    Commodus Caesar
    Commodus caesar spes pvblica.jpg

    Commodus as HERCVLI ROMANO
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    Best part is, these were all buried in the mountains of ho-hum and vaguely attributed Savoca Blue lots, so only the posthumous Aurelius set me back more than $100.
     
  21. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    That's a beautiful collection, nicely presented, and your handwritten tags look wonderful. I especially like your Lucius Verus sestertius and the Faustina – it's obvious that you have a good eye for well-engraved portraits.

    Also, I guess you are doing everything right with starting with the adoptive emperors. Everytime a new collector posts here and announces their plan to build a "12 Caesars" set in gold or something similar, I have somewhat mixed feelings. In my eyes, it's a wiser choice to start with a more affordable and approachable field in order to find out what you actually appreciate, develop a sense for the aesthetics of Roman coins, and accumulate some 'working knowledge' of ancient numismatics. In this sense, good luck with extending your collection – getting the adoptive emperors in different denominations sounds like a fantastic plan to me!

    (Also, if I were you, I would try to add a Marcus Aurelius as Caesar to the collection. His young portraits rank very high on the list of beautiful imperial portraits.)

    Below are some of my Nerva-Antonines:

    Rom – Nerva denarius, Aequitas.png
    Nerva, Roman Empire, denarius, 97 AD, Rome mint. Obv: IMP NERVA CAES AVG GERM PM TR P II, laureate head of Nerva right. Rev: IMP II COS IIII PP, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae. 18mm, 2.98g. Ref: RIC II, 40.

    Rom – Trajan, denarius, Victoria.png
    Trajan, Roman Empire, denarius, 101/102 AD, Rome mint. Obv: IMP CAESAR NERVA TRAIAN AUG GERM, laureate head of Trajan right. Rev: PM TRP COS IIII PP, Victory standing facing, holding wreath and palm branch. 18mm, 3.04g. Ref: RIC II, 58.

    Rom – Hadrian, denarius, Pax.png
    Hadrian, Roman Empire, denarius, 119–122 AD, Rome mint. Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, laureate head of Hadrian right. Rev: PM TR P COS III, Pax seated left, holding Victory on globe and branch. 18.5mm, 3.05g. Ref: RIC II, 95.

    Rom – Antoninus Pius, Denar, Annona mit Bug.png
    Antoninus Pius, Roman Empire, denarius, 155–156 AD, Rome mint. Obv: [ANTO]NINVS AVG PIVS PP [IMP II], head of Antoninus Pius, laureate, r. Rev: TR POT XIX [CO]S III, Annona standing l., holding corn ears, resting l. hand on modius standing on prow with rudder leaning on it. 18mm, 3.27g. Ref: RIC III Antoninus Pius 249.

    Rom – Marcus Aurelius, Denar, Iuventas.png
    Marcus Aurelius (as Caesar), Roman Empire, denarius, 140–144 AD, Rome mint. Obv: AVRELIVS CAESAR AVG PII F COS; head of Marcus Aurelius, bare, r. Rev: IVVENTAS, Iuventas (youth) standing l., dropping incense in candelabrum and holding patera. 17.5mm, 3.16g. Ref: RIC III Antoninus Pius 423a. Ex CNG.

    Rom – Lucius Verus, denarius, Aequitas.png
    Lucius Verus, Roman Empire, denarius, 167/168 AD. Rome mint. Obv: L VERVS AVG ARM PARTH MAX, laureate head of Lucius Verus right. Rev: TR P VIII IMP V COS III, Aequitas seated left, holding scales and cornucopiae. 18mm, 2.62g. Ref: RIC III, 595. Ex Coast to Coast Coins.

    Rom – Commodus, Denarius (Liberalitas) .png
    Commodus, Roman Empire, denarius, 182 AD, Rome mint. Obv: M COMMOD[VS ANTON]INVS AVG, laureate head of Commodus right. Rev: LIB AVG V TR P VII IMP IIII COS III PP, Liberalitas standing left holding counting board and cornucopiae. 18mm, 2.24g. Ref: RIC III, 36A.
     
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