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<p>[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8131312, member: 84744"]Surprise, surprise, another thought-provoking post from [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER]!</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=56859]@TIF[/USER]'s great idea for the monogram makes me wonder why nobody(?) has suggested it's BYP (BUR) for Burebista? Doesn't that make a lot of sense? He was alive until 44 BCE after all; and even if KOSON names a person it could be Burebista's son. (Perhaps Burebista and his son issued some restruck from <a href="https://www.academia.edu/39727143/About_the_Sarmizegetusa_Hoard_from_1998_and_the_Possible_Chronology_of_Burebista_s_Campaign_to_the_Black_Sea_Border" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/39727143/About_the_Sarmizegetusa_Hoard_from_1998_and_the_Possible_Chronology_of_Burebista_s_Campaign_to_the_Black_Sea_Border" rel="nofollow">the massive amounts of gold he took from the coastal Greek cities</a>, and then his son alone struck more from native Dacian gold, for example.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The other thing that's burning my butt is: what about <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6386981" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6386981" rel="nofollow">these things</a>, struck on the same weight standard, but (if struck in the mid 1st c. BCE) based on a type from a <i>hundred</i> years earlier?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1416400[/ATTACH]</p><p>The same KOΣΩΝ, but now with another word in the mix: ΔΡΟΥΕΙΣ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Some wild speculations:</p><p>- Could ΔΡΟΥΕΙΣ be an alternative form of "BΡΟΥΕΙΣ" and be the source of the monogram (now reading BPY)? (Seems doubtful. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p>- Could KOΣΩΝ be a place? I see that two of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_Fortresses_of_the_Orăștie_Mountains" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_Fortresses_of_the_Orăștie_Mountains" rel="nofollow">the cluster of Dacian fortresses</a> in the Orăștie Mountains (used by Burebista) have "Costești" in their names... perhaps derived from an old Dacian word? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_language#Place_names" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_language#Place_names" rel="nofollow">Ptolemy</a> mentions a place called "Karsidava" which isn't too different from "Koson-dava" ("<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dava_(Dacian)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dava_(Dacian)" rel="nofollow">dava</a>" apparently means "settlement", usually fortified). Maybe Kosondava was the fortress containing the mint?</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh - and great coin btw. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Severus Alexander, post: 8131312, member: 84744"]Surprise, surprise, another thought-provoking post from [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER]! [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER]'s great idea for the monogram makes me wonder why nobody(?) has suggested it's BYP (BUR) for Burebista? Doesn't that make a lot of sense? He was alive until 44 BCE after all; and even if KOSON names a person it could be Burebista's son. (Perhaps Burebista and his son issued some restruck from [URL='https://www.academia.edu/39727143/About_the_Sarmizegetusa_Hoard_from_1998_and_the_Possible_Chronology_of_Burebista_s_Campaign_to_the_Black_Sea_Border']the massive amounts of gold he took from the coastal Greek cities[/URL], and then his son alone struck more from native Dacian gold, for example.) The other thing that's burning my butt is: what about [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6386981']these things[/URL], struck on the same weight standard, but (if struck in the mid 1st c. BCE) based on a type from a [I]hundred[/I] years earlier? [ATTACH=full]1416400[/ATTACH] The same KOΣΩΝ, but now with another word in the mix: ΔΡΟΥΕΙΣ? Some wild speculations: - Could ΔΡΟΥΕΙΣ be an alternative form of "BΡΟΥΕΙΣ" and be the source of the monogram (now reading BPY)? (Seems doubtful. :confused:) - Could KOΣΩΝ be a place? I see that two of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_Fortresses_of_the_Orăștie_Mountains']the cluster of Dacian fortresses[/URL] in the Orăștie Mountains (used by Burebista) have "Costești" in their names... perhaps derived from an old Dacian word? [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacian_language#Place_names']Ptolemy[/URL] mentions a place called "Karsidava" which isn't too different from "Koson-dava" ("[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dava_(Dacian)']dava[/URL]" apparently means "settlement", usually fortified). Maybe Kosondava was the fortress containing the mint? Oh - and great coin btw. :D[/QUOTE]
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