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<p>[QUOTE="zumbly, post: 2133784, member: 57495"]There was a point made in a recent thread about having coins in our collections whose authenticity we may never be certain of. Here's one of mine, a rare stater from Argos Amphilochikon that was part of a mixed lot I bought earlier this year.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]406673[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>AKARNANIA, Argos Amphilochikon</b></p><p>Circa 350 - 270 BC</p><p>AR Stater</p><p>7.15g, 21.1mm</p><p>Calciati pg. 524, 6 (same dies).</p><p>O: Pegasos with pointed wing flying right, beneath dog lying right, AP. </p><p>R: Head of Athena left; AM above helmet; behind, tubula and A.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I weighed it at 7.15g, I was concerned about how light it was and wrote to the seller seeking some advice on its authenticity. I accepted the reply that this was not out of line given the corrosion, smoothing and possible crystallization.</p><p><br /></p><p>I then posted it on Forvm (with the purpose of getting some attribution help rather than authentication confirmation), where a member wrote back saying he was "98%" certain it was a cast fake. He pointed to the low weight (at least 1g off the average for this standard), what looked like a casting seam around the edge, and a "molding defect" around Athena's helmet. Even as there were a few other members who chimed in and agreed with him - one pointing to the apparent lack of the typical concavity on the reverse - there were others who were not so certain that it was a fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had originally pegged this as a 50-50 coin, but after the discussion on Forvm I think it's now more of a 70-30 coin... leaning towards it being authentic. I'm comfortable with never being 100% on this coin... it's a interesting type in its own right, and more so for the discussion on authenticity that it has provoked. With that in mind, I'm posting it here because I thought it would be fun and educational if anyone wanted to share their opinions. I'll post later the thoughts of those on the Forvm thread who thought it might not be a fake and why.</p><p><br /></p><p>Edge shots:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]406671[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]406672[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Additional note of curiosity :</b> nobody has been able to say for certain what a tubula (the symbol on the reverse) is. Embrace the unknown, I suppose![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="zumbly, post: 2133784, member: 57495"]There was a point made in a recent thread about having coins in our collections whose authenticity we may never be certain of. Here's one of mine, a rare stater from Argos Amphilochikon that was part of a mixed lot I bought earlier this year. [ATTACH=full]406673[/ATTACH] [B]AKARNANIA, Argos Amphilochikon[/B] Circa 350 - 270 BC AR Stater 7.15g, 21.1mm Calciati pg. 524, 6 (same dies). O: Pegasos with pointed wing flying right, beneath dog lying right, AP. R: Head of Athena left; AM above helmet; behind, tubula and A. When I weighed it at 7.15g, I was concerned about how light it was and wrote to the seller seeking some advice on its authenticity. I accepted the reply that this was not out of line given the corrosion, smoothing and possible crystallization. I then posted it on Forvm (with the purpose of getting some attribution help rather than authentication confirmation), where a member wrote back saying he was "98%" certain it was a cast fake. He pointed to the low weight (at least 1g off the average for this standard), what looked like a casting seam around the edge, and a "molding defect" around Athena's helmet. Even as there were a few other members who chimed in and agreed with him - one pointing to the apparent lack of the typical concavity on the reverse - there were others who were not so certain that it was a fake. I had originally pegged this as a 50-50 coin, but after the discussion on Forvm I think it's now more of a 70-30 coin... leaning towards it being authentic. I'm comfortable with never being 100% on this coin... it's a interesting type in its own right, and more so for the discussion on authenticity that it has provoked. With that in mind, I'm posting it here because I thought it would be fun and educational if anyone wanted to share their opinions. I'll post later the thoughts of those on the Forvm thread who thought it might not be a fake and why. Edge shots: [ATTACH=full]406671[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]406672[/ATTACH] [B]Additional note of curiosity :[/B] nobody has been able to say for certain what a tubula (the symbol on the reverse) is. Embrace the unknown, I suppose![/QUOTE]
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