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<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2381546, member: 1892"]I tend to adhere to error-ref's definitions of these things, and for me a retained cud is a completely-detached section of die still in place. This is extremely rare, almost impossible, with the hammer die as there's nothing to hold the detached piece in place (no collar) and gravity working to pull it loose. Assuming the obverse is the hammer with Kennedys as is usual, even if the cracks are rim-to-rim probability requires us to assume these don't meet the strict definition of "retained cud." Very darn close, though, and I cannot imagine this die striking more than a few more coins before coming completely apart.</p><p><br /></p><p>A further consideration is when the Mint switched to the horizontal Schuler presses, from which time retained cuds on both faces become more believable. </p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, if you've ever wanted a Schuler press of your own and my phone isn't lying to me, there's one currently offered on Ebay, only $225k:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://m.ebay.com/itm/Schuler-MRH-150-Coining-Press-US-Mint-High-Speed-Press-for-Sale-/321897782251" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://m.ebay.com/itm/Schuler-MRH-150-Coining-Press-US-Mint-High-Speed-Press-for-Sale-/321897782251" rel="nofollow">http://m.ebay.com/itm/Schuler-MRH-150-Coining-Press-US-Mint-High-Speed-Press-for-Sale-/321897782251</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2381546, member: 1892"]I tend to adhere to error-ref's definitions of these things, and for me a retained cud is a completely-detached section of die still in place. This is extremely rare, almost impossible, with the hammer die as there's nothing to hold the detached piece in place (no collar) and gravity working to pull it loose. Assuming the obverse is the hammer with Kennedys as is usual, even if the cracks are rim-to-rim probability requires us to assume these don't meet the strict definition of "retained cud." Very darn close, though, and I cannot imagine this die striking more than a few more coins before coming completely apart. A further consideration is when the Mint switched to the horizontal Schuler presses, from which time retained cuds on both faces become more believable. BTW, if you've ever wanted a Schuler press of your own and my phone isn't lying to me, there's one currently offered on Ebay, only $225k: [url]http://m.ebay.com/itm/Schuler-MRH-150-Coining-Press-US-Mint-High-Speed-Press-for-Sale-/321897782251[/url][/QUOTE]
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