62 Days of Large Cents

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by kookoox10, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    LOL I got a week more to wait to post my 1st, stop complaining :D
     
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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Not to rub it in, but we're about the sweet spot of my collection. I think I'm only missing two dates through 1857...1817 (tomorrow's coin) and 1825.

    If I recall correctly, Mark has them all....
     
  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I am not complaining (too much). I really love seeing these old coppers. I am not going to pretend that I can every put together a collection of them, especially like the ones you guys have been posting. I look forward to seeing them all!

    This thread is made me look into getting a couple more. So I ended up with a 1798 and an 1854 today. I blame you all.
     
  5. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I'll take full responsibility for that Greg ;) I have a lowball Classic Head I still have to post before the sun goes down. Large coppers grow on ya.
     
  6. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    yeah, if the 1st two I bought because I couldn't resist them were not enough my 3rd and newest all but appeared out of thin air (cash register find) I'm hooked. the plan at moment is to buy the Dansco large cent album on the 1st with a few more cents as I don't want the 3 I have to feel lonely :D
     
  7. matthew88

    matthew88 Coin Collector

    We should be a Canadian large cent thread too. Sadly I only have one US large cent and two Canadian large cents.
     
  8. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Leadfoot, what is your opinion of the color on this coin?
    Lance.
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    It's brown, tan, and red with a touch of green thrown in for good measure. lol

    Are you thinking recolored?

    I'm not.

    Because if it had been dipped/stripped/recolored, it wouldn't show the live corrosion (red and green), nor would it have the two tone look of lighter and darker brown. It would be much "flatter" colored with planchet roughness without red/green corrosion. Like this:

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    My 1816 is a very original-looking coin, IMO. The 1829, pictured immediately above, (and with all due respect, your 1816)....not so much.

    You are, of course, free to disagree. :)

    What do you think of the color on the 1816?

    How about your own example of this date?
     
  10. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I tread gently. I hope you feel from the tone of my post that I was asking a question I hadn't formed an opinion on.

    Still learning...
    Lance.
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Lance, No worries. You can tread as lightly or as heavily as you wish and without fear of offending me. We are both here to learn and share, and my skin is much thicker than that 1816's. :D

    Now, please answer my questions as I would like to know what you think. :)
     
  12. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I'm afraid so - that is the only one I have a picture off. It's a real hassle to go to the bank and retrieve them to take pictures.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Eduard, I hope you do someday, and I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I'd sure love to see the rest of your collection. :) ...Mike
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Thank you for your comment Mike.
    I like your 1816 N-5. Where exactly are you seeing the corrosion, though? I see at most some verdigris (or deposits), very minor, about some stars. It is a lovely coin.
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    The red all over the coin. The green hidden in the hair curls to the left of the curl. Both are corrosion.

    Also, some of the verdigris (i.e. black smut) most visible along Liberty outline and also the stars on the obverse, which almost certainly has porosity/corrosion underneath it.

    As an aside, on a recolored coin, these areas would be devoid of verdigris, and only the porosity would remain. When you see that porosity without the verdigris in the recesses of a coin, it's a strong clue that someone has boinked with the coin, IMO. However, if this porosity is all over the coin (as in the obverse of Lance's 1816), it could be a boinking clue, but it could also be a result of a porous planchets to begin with -- as is often seen on most of the middle-dates.

    Thanks for the kind words and you're welcome. :)
     
  17. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I asked because I have seen this look before, including on one of my own, that also suffered from a little light corrosion. I wondered if that somehow contributed to the uneven color or if there was another explanation.
    Lance.
     
  18. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Here's an N6, not particularly scarce.
    Lance.

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  19. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Thanks for your response, Lance. :)

    The corrosion and uneven color (if by "uneven color" you mean the light tan and darker brown mottled look most visible on the reverse), are really two separate issues, as I understand things. Corrosion is what it is -- simply surface contaminates that have begun to degrade the surfaces of the coin. The mottled look is something different, I think. Frankly, I'm not so sure what causes it (for instance, is it a large cent's version of a woodie...an improperly mixed alloy) or if it is actually related to the corrosion, but you do see this look on large cents from time to time -- I have a few other coins that exhibit this same characteristic.

    Just some food for thought....Mike

    p.s. nice 1817.
     
  20. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Mike, thanks for your comments. I am sure I speak for a few others when I say that your experience with early copper is educational to many, myself included, and very much worth keeping in mind for anybody intent on pursuing this area.

    (Sorry for the lavish praise, But i think it well deserved).

    Like me ask now a profane question: would the Verdi Care product be beneficial with a coin like yours?
    I know opinions here differ widely, but I wanted to hear your opinion.
     
  21. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    IMO, no as I like the coin the way it is. But really I have no idea what Verdicare will do to a coin like my 1816. Thad sent me an example to play with, but I haven't used it on any large cents, only some modern lincoln's. FWIW, I'm not a fan of improving/doctoring/dipping/verdi-caring coins, personally -- I prefer to buy coins in the way they appeal to me, not try to improve them.
     
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