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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bmmartin, post: 4393295, member: 98956&quot;][USER=84179]@Oldhoopster[/USER] thanks for the input!&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I wouldn&#039;t go as far as calling it as a poor man&#039;s doubled die haha</p><p><br /></p><p>I think [USER=66]@Conder101[/USER] posted the same in the other thread - I won&#039;t disagree with him on valuations - I think that&#039;s for the market to determine.&nbsp; Just as I won&#039;t disagree with you on significance.&nbsp; What makes the variety significant?&nbsp; Appearance? Causation?&nbsp; Scarcity? How much weight do we put on each factor?</p><p><br /></p><p>I do find the 1955 doubled die fascinating.&nbsp; But it&#039;s the end result of a &quot;run of the mill&quot; hub doubling isn&#039;t it?&nbsp; No mischief, no design change, no noticeable absence.&nbsp; But it&#039;s pronounced and rare.&nbsp; So, is it significant?&nbsp; IMO, yes, because it wasn&#039;t noticed until most coins had circulated.&nbsp; That&#039;s my stance.&nbsp; You may disagree.&nbsp; And that&#039;s fine.&nbsp; That&#039;s what makes these debates fun.</p><p><br /></p><p>Interesting, though, that you bring up the poor man&#039;s because there was some fraud already with this variety; an eBay seller recently sold a worn dime described as the &quot;5&quot; variety for $80-100.&nbsp; Absolutely disgusting.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I digress.&nbsp; I wrote my recent posts for two reasons:</p><p><br /></p><p>(1) There&#039;s teaching and then there&#039;s being a snob.&nbsp; There&#039;s explaining it (like you did) and attempts at &quot;sarcasm&quot; that amount to little more than belittling.&nbsp; Would you send your child or a friend that was a novice to a forum where there&#039;s a lot of arrogance?</p><p><br /></p><p>I spoke with some people in the Atlanta area and why they don&#039;t go to many of the shows and the words that got thrown around a lot were snobs and elitists.&nbsp; Many didn&#039;t attend the Money Show because they just didn&#039;t like the atmosphere and if they did, they made cameos.&nbsp; My uncle told me similar stories and that&#039;s why I almost never go to shows, even local ones.</p><p><br /></p><p>This arrogance is why my son doesn&#039;t come on this forum anymore.&nbsp; He said a lot of people on here were mean or sounded like a-holes.&nbsp; It&#039;s a shame because I think there&#039;s a lot of useful information to be found here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is coin collecting meant only for an elite few?&nbsp; I guess historically it was, but I like to think of it as fun and wish more people were interested.&nbsp; If anything, the history is really fascinating.</p><p><br /></p><p>(2) There&#039;s misinformation.&nbsp; You agree that it&#039;s a variety as does Conder, myself, and several others.&nbsp; However, there&#039;s a lot of people saying &quot;pareidolia&quot; or &quot;error&quot; when, IMHO, I think there&#039;s a distinction.&nbsp; It&#039;s like when those with variety experience hear &quot;double die&quot; rather than &quot;doubled die&quot; (did you cringe?).&nbsp; Then, there are people saying that it&#039;s NOT a variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both reasons are why [USER=44615]@paddyman98[/USER] was wrong.&nbsp; First, he claims that all experts have said it&#039;s not a variety AT ALL.&nbsp; Well, [USER=84179]@Oldhoopster[/USER], clearly you&#039;re not an expert because YOU said it&#039;s a variety.&nbsp; Neither is Bill Fivas either it appears because HE said it was a variety.&nbsp; He just writes the book on it, but clearly he is no expert (this, my friends, is sarcasm).</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not, , and I will be the first to admit this; I prefer Commonwealth coins TBH.&nbsp; I only recently began looking closer at varieties with my son because I feel it&#039;s a good entryway into collecting.&nbsp; However, I don&#039;t present myself as one or any of that nonsense puffery.&nbsp; I don&#039;t ridicule others for seeing pareidolia (for those that no how to use the word properly, did you cringe?).</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I fear that there are some on here with God complexes.&nbsp; There&#039;s a lot of negativity coupled with defensiveness.&nbsp; What foolish questions! How dare you question me with this idiotic question! Let me give you the wrong answer! OH NO, he&#039;s found my weak spot...</p><p><br /></p><p>Was a photograph with a well-respected expert meant to impress me?&nbsp; Congratulations!&nbsp; I have a photograph of me during my time studying the laws at Oxford; I&#039;m having a pint where Bill Clinton allegedly didn&#039;t inhale.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also have a photograph with my kid and Patrick Starfish at Universal Studios and&nbsp; that&#039;s the more meaningful photo of the two in my books.&nbsp; Because it was all about having fun.</p><p><br /></p><p>And that&#039;s really how we should be acting on here, right.&nbsp; In ways to attract more people to our hobby rather than repulse them.&nbsp; Giving them good information rather than false knowledge.&nbsp; But most importantly, remembering why we got into collecting in the first place.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have fun, swap coins, and keep it light.&nbsp; Cheers mates![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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