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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 8298024, member: 24314&quot;]Look guys.&nbsp; You cannot take a &quot;science-like&quot; endeavor such as numismatics and start making up things to suit yourself. Words mean certain things.&nbsp; Collectors can become informed by reading, taking classes, etc. OR they can roll along in their own world and frustrate or confuse those both more knowledgeable or less knowledgeable.&nbsp; This thread is an example.&nbsp; According to the first post after the OP&#039;s, the coin is a die struck counterfeit.&nbsp; Unfortunately, that was not stated directly until later in the thread. <b> It does not have an added mint mark!</b>&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; It is not an &quot;added S&nbsp; counterfeit&quot; either.&nbsp; Writing that the coin has an added &quot;S&quot; because it is in the wrong position and is not the correct shape is also incorrect.&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="color: #660000">I <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> crapped all over the thread when I said that was a good guess. It was <b>not.</b>&nbsp; </span><span style="color: #000000">What was </span><span style="color: #006600"><b>good</b></span><span style="color: #000000"> is the fact that members knew something did not look right with the mint mark.&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">There is one more thing that might be confusing.&nbsp; If I take a genuine coin and attach a tiny mint mark to it - it is an altered coin with an added mint mark.&nbsp; If I take a genuine coin with a &quot;D&quot; mint mark and tool the &quot;D&quot; into the shape of an &quot;O&quot; or &quot;S&quot; it becomes an altered coin with an altered mint mark.&nbsp; If I take a genuine coin and tool the mint mark area up into a raised bit of metal I can then shape into an &quot;S,&quot; it is an altered coin - period.&nbsp; Some could call that an &quot;added mint mark&quot; but many would not know exactly what it was without seeing the coin in hand.&nbsp; That was one point I was making.&nbsp;&nbsp; The same is true when parts of any coin&#039;s design are reengraved to add details that are missing due to a weak strike or circulation wear.&nbsp; The coin is either reengraved, tooled, or altered even though someone &quot;ADDED&quot; the missing ___________ derail.&nbsp; Are you as confused as you think I am. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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