4 ducat gold coin real?

i have this beautiful coin / medallion but I do not know if it's real. It scratched and left a gold mark on the surface, pinged for a very long time and weighed to 13.9 grams. However, a mr. Cash for gold expert told me all was real and acid tested it and everything. Then all of a sudden after a price was established he put it on some type of scale looking device that detected it as not real? The same happened to the smaller gold coin I brought in, which he had ripped out of the gold ring band it was soldered into. I am not sure about the small coins weight but that one is iffy to me. He bought the gold ring band for 70$ though.

 

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Welcome to the forum. My guess is it's fake. The devices are not defined enough for the coin to be real, the date isn't even clear. The bezel doesn't look real either, but that coin is really bad. Look at the link below.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUSTRIA-4-D...924630?hash=item58a0dc7596:g:4ckAAMXQVT9StY06

 

It is a common bullion coin, almost always a later restrike and has been worn as a pendant for years which may account for the apparent wear, although the pictures lack definition. The mount is typical of the type of mount that was used to make these coins into jewellery and should have a carat mark on it somewhere.

Cash for gold shops pay very poor rates for gold, if it is right then you may do far better elsewhere. I'd not give up on it immediately. The best test is with an XRF scanner, which will analyse the specific elemental composition of the metal.

 

Here's a graded one I own and it's a re-strike too .

PCGS Coin Information
PCGS # 21092
Date, mintmark 1915
Denomination 4 Duc
Variety Restrike
Country Austria
Grade MS64
Holder Type Standard
Population
16

 

The coin weighs 13.9 grams. The bezel weighs 9.