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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2391170, member: 24314&quot;][USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER]&nbsp; said: I have no problem with this; I just don&#039;t think decimal places are necessary.&nbsp; <span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 89)">I agree but they are coming.&nbsp; I have heard they are being used INTERNALLY by the graders at one TPGS already.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] sais: How do I teach someone how many marks - and where - equal MS63 when I then have to say, &quot;but not when it&#039;s pretty; then that many marks equal MS64? And if you&#039;re not a toning fan, you might not even think it&#039;s pretty but you gotta give it 64 anyways?&quot;&nbsp; <span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">I don&#039;t find ANY PROBLEM with teaching ANYONE how to grade and I&#039;ll bet you don&#039;t either. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> So this is a non-problem for me making it hard to reply. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">Try this:&nbsp; You , me, and our mythical student here <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> will eventually develop our own PERSONAL standards and judgment of style, art, and beauty.&nbsp; However, the TPGS&#039;s set the INDUSTRY STANDARDS so you, me, and our student better know what&#039;s going on in the &quot;BIG WORLD&quot; or we failed as a teacher. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie55" alt=":hurting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie23" alt=":bigtears:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">&quot;Pretty&quot; is in the eye of the beholder.&nbsp; Beautiful toning/tarnish/corrosion can raise or lower the TECHNICAL GRADE. [BTW, that was one of the downfalls of TRUE technical grading as &quot;strike&quot; and &quot;eye appeal&quot; were not factored in to the final grade.]</span></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] Said: Bull. It&#039;s Net/Details grading in reverse - &quot;MS63, Net 64.&quot;<span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">&nbsp; Yes, I think you got it and don&#039;t forget about MS-64, NET 63! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] Said: Bull. Where do the TPG&#039;s get off telling <b>me</b> what I think is a nice coin by forcing me up a grade for it? <span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">Although many of your opinions are good, NO ONE OF ANY IMPORTANCE CARES WHAT YOU (me and our student for that matter) THINK/DO</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)"><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> with regards to numismatics.&nbsp; They don&#039;t even consider that you exist so they do not TELL you anything.&nbsp; It&#039;s very humbling. We are worthless little &quot;specks.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">Need Proof?&nbsp; I have tried on several occasions to get TPGS graders to chime in on these questions and they laugh. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />&nbsp; Except in a few cases - Jay Turner and Dave Lange on the NGC forum <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> - come to mind; NO ONE CARES.&nbsp; I think I can speak for you here also when I say &quot;I don&#039;t care what the TPGS&#039;s think either <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />...BUT I STUDY THE WAY THEY GRADE so as not to be ignorant of market standards.&nbsp; </span></p><p><br /></p><p><b>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] said: Save the numbers for technical grading</b>.&nbsp; <span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">There is no technical grading that I know of being practiced COMMERCIALLY outside a seminar classroom.&nbsp; If someone uses this system (as I do) for their personal standards that&#039;s fine.&nbsp; Just remember; <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">NO ONE CARES what we do! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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