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<p>[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 444331, member: 4381"]Actually that is the law unless you file stolen car report.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>A car has a title or ownership. Most possessions do not. Aside from that, this is the government who is making the accusations.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Individuals do not need to have receipts to prove they own something. Merely there possession of it is presumptive evidence of its ownership.</p><p><br /></p><p>The government is explicitly prevented to seizing it in this case by the 5th amemendment, even more so that a private party.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even a private party in the case of say, stolen artifacts, Nazi paintings stolen from Jewish homes, etc....all these have to go through due process to prove they were stolen goods in the first place. The Government is not even doing that. They just seized the coins, although the Swifts were stupid enough to send them to the mint.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, cars are like Real Estate and have a title holder.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Because it doesn't. It is not protected to have freedom of speech either. Government employees are not allowed to contribute to political campaigns and much more. The Government is not a person, or even a corporate person. It has no rights. It has responsibilities and duties. Its power and authority is completely the providence of the people. </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No they don't. This is like the conversations of the Mint and profits. Government property is not the same as private property AT ALL, and is a whole other segment of law. What is Government Property has been an enormously perplexing legal question since before the Constitution was ratified.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There are various Sherman tanks around the country that are in that status right now. But you can't walk onto an Army base and take a tank because explicit in statutory law and under the UCMJ[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mrbrklyn, post: 444331, member: 4381"]Actually that is the law unless you file stolen car report. A car has a title or ownership. Most possessions do not. Aside from that, this is the government who is making the accusations. Individuals do not need to have receipts to prove they own something. Merely there possession of it is presumptive evidence of its ownership. The government is explicitly prevented to seizing it in this case by the 5th amemendment, even more so that a private party. Even a private party in the case of say, stolen artifacts, Nazi paintings stolen from Jewish homes, etc....all these have to go through due process to prove they were stolen goods in the first place. The Government is not even doing that. They just seized the coins, although the Swifts were stupid enough to send them to the mint. Again, cars are like Real Estate and have a title holder. Because it doesn't. It is not protected to have freedom of speech either. Government employees are not allowed to contribute to political campaigns and much more. The Government is not a person, or even a corporate person. It has no rights. It has responsibilities and duties. Its power and authority is completely the providence of the people. No they don't. This is like the conversations of the Mint and profits. Government property is not the same as private property AT ALL, and is a whole other segment of law. What is Government Property has been an enormously perplexing legal question since before the Constitution was ratified. There are various Sherman tanks around the country that are in that status right now. But you can't walk onto an Army base and take a tank because explicit in statutory law and under the UCMJ[/QUOTE]
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