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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 934125, member: 112&quot;]I&#039;m bringing this back up because I feel it is important. </p><p><br /></p><p>No guys, there is no hidden rim damage. The 1 coin was placed in a genuine holder for being scratched - and nothing but being scratched. Here are the complete descriptions that PCGS gives for Genuine holders - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>No Grades</i></p><p><i>PCGS will not grade and encapsulate any coins with the following problems:</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>86 No Opinion – our experts are unable to determine a coin’s authenticity – fee refunded</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>87 Not Eligible For Service Selected – the coin is too valuable for the chosen service level – fee refunded</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>90 Questionable Authenticity – the coin is most likely a counterfeit.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>91|N-1 Questionable/Artificial Toning (or Questionable Color for copper)</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>92|N-2 Cleaned – surface damage due to a harsh, abrasive cleaning</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>93|N-3 Planchet Flaw - Metal impurity or defect in the planchet – depends on severity</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>94|N-4 Altered Surface - Whizzed, harsh cleaning, thumbed over (using a pasty substance to cover defects or alter the appearance).</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>95|N-5 Scratch - depends on the severity of the scratch</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>96|N-6 No Service – coins we do not certify (i.e. medals, some privately made issues, etc.) or cannot certify (i.e. over-sized coins)</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>97|N-7 Environmental Damage – i.e. corrosion, coating (lacquer), excessively heavy toning, etc.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>98|N-8 Damage – deliberate surface damage, i.e. graffiti, spot(s) removed, etc. – depends on severity</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>99|N-9 PVC (Poly-Vinyl-Chloride) – a plasticizer used to produce vinyl that will leach out of the holder and onto the coin, eventually damaging the </i></p><p><i>surfaces.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>If there were rim damage, or possible other damage, on the coin then the 98 code would have been used. But the 95 code was used - specifically because the coin is scratched.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is my opinion that anybody who ignores the obvious, especially something as obvious as this, is reaching. They are searching for an excuse, any excuse, to justify PCGS doing something this inconsistent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well what excuse do you use when something like this happens to the exact same coin ? Not one just like it or similar - but the exact same coin ? There have been countless incidents of a coin being submitted, body-bagged; then re-submitted and graded. There have been examples of a coin being graded as XF, re-submitted and graded as MS64. And these are not just isolated incidents, they happen over and over again.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if the TPG exhibits such inconsistentcy with the exact same coin, then why in world is it out of line to expect them to show inconsistency with coins that have similar damage ? The answer is it isn&#039;t out of line. It <b>IS</b> what they do. And it will continue to be what they do until you, the market decide not to accept it anymore. You are the ones who let them get away with it. And when you start calling them on the carpet for it - it will stop. But until then, they&#039;ll keep right on pushing the limits just to see what you will accept and what you will not.</p><p><br /></p><p>You&#039;ve seen this happen with toned coins. And it continued until people, you people, started complaining about it and posting about it in various forums. And then the TPGs tightened up on toning didn&#039;t they ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Well they will regarding damage too. And with the two coins in this thread, there is no question. There is no doubt. Anybody with eyes can see that. Both coins are damaged. Both coins have undeniable scratches. And the severity of those scratches is equal on both coins. All you have to do is look at them to see that.</p><p><br /></p><p>So quit making excuses. Stop reaching to find some explanation, some reason to explain the actions of the TPG. It&#039;s as obvious as the nose on your face what happened - the TPG screwed up. Damage is damage folks and that&#039;s what it should be called.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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