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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Publius2, post: 7644541, member: 105571&quot;]Got it.&nbsp; I understand what you were getting at.&nbsp; But we often tend to be a pedantic lot.&nbsp; So, even if and when the die crack extends from rim to rim, it is still not a cud and it may or may not eventually become a cud.&nbsp; The cud is only a cud when the portion of the die between the rim and the crack actually breaks away from the rest of the die (or bends away sufficiently) so that the planchet metal flows into a void so that the devices and/or rim don&#039;t strike up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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