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<p>[QUOTE="Topcat7, post: 2414016, member: 73372"](To tell the difference, go by weight - 1oz [28+ gm]=1d, 2oz [56+ gm]=2d)</p><p>Interestingly, Australia didn't get it's own 'coinage' until 1910 for silver, (or 1911 for copper) coins. Australia used coins from other countries as 'legal; tender, but found that the coins were leaving the country with the sailors from the ships, so the Governor ascribed a 'higher value' to each of the coins, when used in Australia, and this stopped the 'drainage'. The Cartwheel 'Twopence' was worth 'Threepence' and the Cartwheel 'Penny' was worth 'Twopence'. I found this in 'Wikipedia'.</p><p>For many years after the first Australian colony, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales" rel="nofollow">New South Wales</a>, was founded in 1788, it did not have its own currency and had to rely on the coins of other countries. During the early days of the colony, commodities such as wheat were sometimes used as a currency because of the shortage of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Spanish dollars were sometimes cut into "pieces of eight", quarters, and then into 2/3 and 1/3 segments, with the 2/3 segments (1/6 of original coin) being "shillings" and the 1/3 segments (1/12 of original coin) "sixpences" <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow">[1]</a> In 1791 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Phillip" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Phillip" rel="nofollow">Governor Phillip</a> of New South Wales fixed the value of the Spanish dollar to equal five shillings.</p><p><br /></p><p>Under the decree of 19 November 1800 by the governor <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Gidley_King" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Gidley_King" rel="nofollow">Philip Gidley King</a>, the following coins were legal tender for the exchange value of:</p><p><br /></p><ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_(British_coin)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_(British_coin)" rel="nofollow">Guinea</a> = £1/1/- (One pound and one shilling)</li> <li>Gold <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohur" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohur" rel="nofollow">Mohur</a> = £1/17/6 (one pound, 17 shillings and sixpence).</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_dollar" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_dollar" rel="nofollow">Spanish dollar</a> = 5 shillings.</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducat" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducat" rel="nofollow">Ducat</a> = 9/6 (9 shillings 6 pence).</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupee" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupee" rel="nofollow">Rupee</a> = 2/6 (2 shillings and 6 pence).</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagoda_(coin)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagoda_(coin)" rel="nofollow">Pagoda</a> = 8/- (8 shillings).</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Guilder" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Guilder" rel="nofollow">Dutch Guilder</a> = 2/- (2 shillings).</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilling_(British_coin)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilling_(British_coin)" rel="nofollow">English shilling</a> = 1/1 (1 shilling and 1 penny).</li> <li>Copper coin of 1 oz = 2 pence.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-2" rel="nofollow">[2]</a></li> </ul><p>The settlers did have some <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_III" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_III" rel="nofollow">George III</a> one-penny coins, which were referred to as "Cartwheel pennies". These were the first British coins to be officially exported to the Australian colonies, and so can be considered Australia's first official coins. They were dated 1797 and 1799, with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia" rel="nofollow">Britannia</a> on one side and King George III on the other.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are my examples of the 1d and the 2d (Penny and Twopence).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]499324[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]499325[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Topcat7, post: 2414016, member: 73372"](To tell the difference, go by weight - 1oz [28+ gm]=1d, 2oz [56+ gm]=2d) Interestingly, Australia didn't get it's own 'coinage' until 1910 for silver, (or 1911 for copper) coins. Australia used coins from other countries as 'legal; tender, but found that the coins were leaving the country with the sailors from the ships, so the Governor ascribed a 'higher value' to each of the coins, when used in Australia, and this stopped the 'drainage'. The Cartwheel 'Twopence' was worth 'Threepence' and the Cartwheel 'Penny' was worth 'Twopence'. I found this in 'Wikipedia'. For many years after the first Australian colony, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales']New South Wales[/URL], was founded in 1788, it did not have its own currency and had to rely on the coins of other countries. During the early days of the colony, commodities such as wheat were sometimes used as a currency because of the shortage of coins. Spanish dollars were sometimes cut into "pieces of eight", quarters, and then into 2/3 and 1/3 segments, with the 2/3 segments (1/6 of original coin) being "shillings" and the 1/3 segments (1/12 of original coin) "sixpences" [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-1'][1][/URL] In 1791 [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Phillip']Governor Phillip[/URL] of New South Wales fixed the value of the Spanish dollar to equal five shillings. Under the decree of 19 November 1800 by the governor [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Gidley_King']Philip Gidley King[/URL], the following coins were legal tender for the exchange value of: [LIST] [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_(British_coin)']Guinea[/URL] = £1/1/- (One pound and one shilling) [*]Gold [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohur']Mohur[/URL] = £1/17/6 (one pound, 17 shillings and sixpence). [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_dollar']Spanish dollar[/URL] = 5 shillings. [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducat']Ducat[/URL] = 9/6 (9 shillings 6 pence). [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupee']Rupee[/URL] = 2/6 (2 shillings and 6 pence). [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagoda_(coin)']Pagoda[/URL] = 8/- (8 shillings). [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Guilder']Dutch Guilder[/URL] = 2/- (2 shillings). [*][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilling_(British_coin)']English shilling[/URL] = 1/1 (1 shilling and 1 penny). [*]Copper coin of 1 oz = 2 pence.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_Australia#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] [/LIST] The settlers did have some [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_III']George III[/URL] one-penny coins, which were referred to as "Cartwheel pennies". These were the first British coins to be officially exported to the Australian colonies, and so can be considered Australia's first official coins. They were dated 1797 and 1799, with [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia']Britannia[/URL] on one side and King George III on the other. Here are my examples of the 1d and the 2d (Penny and Twopence). [ATTACH=full]499324[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]499325[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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