2nd opinion on 1903-O Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by larssten, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Hello!

    I have this on hand and considering to buy it, but would appreciate any second opinions on this 1903-O dollar.

    It’s raw, but I trust the seller. Grade vice I think it might be in the MS60-62 range.

    So what do you think? Safe buy?

    Thanks!
     

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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    There's so little difference between prices for different grades on this date that, if you like the coin, you can hardly go wrong.
     
  4. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Tough call on the grade.
    For me it all depends on whether I view the "noise" on the obverse as bag marks or improper handling/storage.
    Bag marks = MS, possibly as high as -63
    Improper handling/storage = AU-55
     
  5. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I agree with your grade assessment but for me a nice MS64 is the sweet spot for this issue.
     
  6. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    62-63...how much is the asking price?
     
  7. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for your input. Ask price was equivalent of $370, but the seller decided to keep it for his own collection after all...
    I’ll be on the lookout for an 64 specimen I think, which is a optical collecting grade for me and my budget. Bowers mention 65, but more of a jump in price up there. 60-64 is fairly the same level.

    Thanks again for good advise!
     
  8. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    I'm no expert but it looks like an AU-53 at best. Lots of wear
     
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  9. John Johnson

    John Johnson Well-Known Member

    I think $370 was a great price for this one. Too bad you didn't get it.
     
  10. buckeye73

    buckeye73 Well-Known Member

    I am also not an expert, but I am in the AU 53 to 55 range based on photos.
     
  11. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    Based on enlarging the photos and taking in consideration the 2x2 plastic it's in, I'm more in the 62/63 range with the reverse being 63 plus. Grading is subjective. Only been collecting 63 years but have 12 of these in 11 Morgan sets without the 95 proof. Good price. Keep collecting. I paid $12.50 each for mine when the bags came out. I should have bought more.
     
  12. larssten

    larssten Well-Known Member

    That must have been quite an experience being present in the market in 1962 when bags of these were discovered! In my 1961 Red Book the 1903-O was listed at $500 for an UNC specimen and have even heard of $1500 listings before the release! Guess they went down in price quite fast!
     
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  13. Bob Evancho

    Bob Evancho Well-Known Member

    Yes they did. I bought rolls of 1904-O and 1899-O for $20 a roll and banks had them. $1.00 each UNC coin. Coin collecting is a great hobby and wonderful history lesson. That was the good old days.
     
  14. SilverDollar2017

    SilverDollar2017 Morgan dollars

    Do not confuse wear with the famous New Orleans mint weak strike. MS-63 IMO.
     
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  15. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    My bad. Wasn't aware of the 4.4 million weak strikes.
     
  16. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Actually the '03 O generally has average to good strikes.
     
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  17. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    OK. You can raise the value by grade to what you want but it seems to me the OP's coin shouldn't and doesn't deserve a 63 or 64 grading.
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    There's little reason not to by at least an MS64 of this date at just north of $400. They're quite available in that grade, and you should be able to cherrypick both for quality and for the VAM 4A variety.
     
  19. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Shhh, that's my cherry pick...;)
     
  20. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    That's true but this thread is about the displayed coin. My remark is just an answer to the question of the grade, not value.
     
  21. Libertyron

    Libertyron Active Member

    I remember those days as well Didn't have the resources then to take advantage though.
     
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