22 Years Yoachum Silver Dollar Research

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  1. James F. Morris

    James F. Morris New Member

    Read ,injoy,more to come.
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  3. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO* Supporter

    read what?
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I really injoyed that. :D
  5. General_Godlike

    General_Godlike Dept. of Transportation

    Best post Ive read yet....:hail:
  6. James F. Morris

    James F. Morris New Member

    Try these?

    Attached Files:

  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That looks like something someone made by hand-punching a worn coin. I would put it in the category of a love token, counterstamped coin or something similar.
  8. James F. Morris

    James F. Morris New Member

    22 Year Yoachum Silver Dollar Research

    Thanks for your Patience.. Enjoy


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  9. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    There is no need to post more than one thread about the same thing. I have moved the different posts together.

  10. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I think James is scammin us.

    OOPs: Didn't see this:

    Attached Files[​IMG]YOACHUM
    (look before you leap; I knew I shouldn't have had that second beer)

    PS: Interesting read James
  11. j-easy

    j-easy Member

    the first part is 4 pages!
  12. James F. Morris

    James F. Morris New Member

    22 Years Yoachum Silver Dollar Researcha

    To All,

    Thanks for your comments on the YSD-1822. I hope you enjoyed seeing the Re-strike Obv./Rev. and the (first) 4 pages attachments. I have 22 pages ready to send which I wrote in 1986 " History of Missouri of Missouri and the Yoachum Silver Dollar". You history buffs will enjoy it... However, I'm not sure which string to attach it to. Any Suggestions. The Newer version with updated Research is in the Works. I have a plethora of other docs. & letters to send if anyone would like to see them, Anything specific?? .. Or any specific questions you would like to answer.

    This Yoachum Dollar sure has been interesting for me - quite honestly - it just won't let me go.. Thats why I call it the "Curse" and need to pass it on to someone else before my time runs out. Dumb luck is right.


  13. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Great stuff James !!!
  14. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I agree...quite interesting!
  15. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway New Member

    I would love to see the 22 page article. How can I get a copy?
  16. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway New Member

    Never mind, got it from one of the duplicate threads.
  17. James F. Morris

    James F. Morris New Member

    Dear Capt.

    Thanks for your interest and hope you enjoy it. There's another 4 page download,
    photos of the dies/original coin and the limited edition Re-strikes posted earlier. Any comments would be appreciated.. What parts did you like the best?

  18. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway New Member

    test #2
    what happened to the reply I posted about the Yoachum dollar fakes?
  19. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I deleted it---in most cases when all someone posts is the word Test it means that they are testing the forum, and has nothing to do with the topic on hand.....Since we try to stay on topic the Test Post are either moved to the Test Forum, or deleted. Sorry, but I still don't see what Test #2 has has to do with the topic on hand.

  20. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway New Member

    I had posted a three paragraph comment about the Yoachum dollars, and why they were modern fakes, and it disappeared. I posted the first test to see if I was sending correctly. It seemed to go through all right.

    When I came back to repost the first message I saw that the test post had disappeared, and wondered what was up.

    Will repost the original comment later this morning.
  21. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway New Member

    I was fascinated by the addition to the myth surrounding the Yoachum dollars of the fanciful story that the silver used in them had been mined by Spanish conquistadors in 1541, only to be left behind and re-discovered by native Americans circa 1820.

    As a professional authenticator I examined, in 1982, two of the eight pieces allegedly discovered in a cave in the early 1980s. At that time the story that accompanied them was that they had been made in 1822 by a trader named Yoachum from native silver ore mined by Indians in the Ozarks.

    We did x-ray tests on the pieces and discovered that they were nearly perfect sterling silver, 92.5% pure silver and 7.5% pure copper with virtually no trace elements. It is what you would expect if somebody melted down a few sterling silver spoons or forks. It is impossible from raw ore crudely smelted, by either Indians or conquistadors.

    We returned the coins as "No Decision," with the comment that we would like to see one from a different source. About six months later we received one from a party in Indiana who claimed that it was an old family heirloom. A check of our photographic and weight records proved that it was merely one of the original two pieces, now heavily artificially toned.

    In my personal opinion the pieces I examined in 1982 and 1983 are modern fantasies. I also understand that imitations of them are being sold in the gift shop at Silver Dollar City in Branson, MO. Whether or not the 1982 pieces had any connection to Silver Dollar City would be sheer speculation, unless someone other than I has any knowledge of this and would care to add to this discussion.

    Tom DeLorey
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