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Message:: [QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 8170591, member: 105098"]I'm not going to get into color because the pictures are too dark and hard to discern, but that right there, 1993 D is a rough year for the dies and planchets. if you go look at PCGS most all the examples on there, even in high MS are bumpy or roller lines or orange peel to the surface. It's a hard one to get right. ''what I do see on your example is a lot of machine doubling, that may or may not involve split plate doubling in some locations. but again the pictures are too dark to determine.. What I will say is, it needs to be MS68 or better to have been worth the costs to get it graded, even MS68 would sell on ebay for around $50-$60 or so. With the exception of one of the cheaper services like ANACS or ICG that dont' have a membership cost to submit and run specials. you might want to take advantage of a grading special from one of them, my opinion, it's a pretty coin for it's age, however, it's not going to be worth the grading fees to send it in due to the hits on the obverse under RT in liberty, and the one on the reverse in the E in CENT, and the overall extensive machine doubling on the obverse. I think you can find prettier to submit, smoother and sharper, and sharper rims, but it's your money to do with as you please of course.[/QUOTE]