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<p>[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 22483882, member: 115140"]It would have been helpful to know what the "error" designation was that "Errorhound" is referring to. As KBBPL said, PCGS doesn't note any error designation on their website for the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">I'm no expert by any means but am willing to share my observations on the images in the Truview link provided by KBBPL.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">(I'll note here that the reverse images at PCGS show some issues as well that no one mentioned.)</span></span></p><p><br /></p><p>"Errorhound", first off, you should have started your own thread only because it is a way of getting more people to look at it and offer their thoughts. Some collectors see an old thread and scroll it past to get to new "stuff".</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>(The colored letters in parenthesis are by me for clarity in my replies.)</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">(A)</span> I see no signs of your coin being a DDO or A DDR (and as far as I know PCGS wouldn't note any variety for this series since no 2021 Lincoln cents have an FS # that I'm aware of).</p><p><span style="color: #0080ff">(B)</span>IMHO, errors and varieties (DDO, DDR, RPM, clash, etc) are considered different and not interchangeable terms. Errors denote equipment malfunction or failure that produce striking errors of the planchets themselves. Varieties refer to an irregularity on the die face which transfers to the coin.</p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff">(C)<span style="color: #000000">The secondary design elements you mention are incuse (recessed).</span></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">I'm seeing two different sets of extra obverse design elements.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">-Extra mirrored and incuse elements by the date, the field in front of Lincoln's face, and the rim above TRUST. (I feel these are PSD as explained below.)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">-The rim damage and extra letters ("GOD W" in reverse) on the rim above TRUST must be incuse since it corresponds with the rim damage in the same area. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">(Lighting is throwing me off and making "W DOG" appear raised.)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">[ATTACH=full]1544815[/ATTACH] </span></span></p><p>T<span style="color: #ff4dff"><span style="color: #000000">he letters over the date and the secondary image in the field in front of Lincoln's face are incuse. The light source for the PCGS obverse image in the link seems to be coming from K2 (2:00).</span> </span></p><p>Edit:</p><p>As to Pickin and Grinin suggesting a type of brockage, ... Hmmmmm , interesting.</p><p>I'm not sure how the rim below "W DOG" couldn't be affected if it were a type of brockage.</p><p><br /></p><p>On to the reverse.</p><p>EDIT:</p><p>The area under and toward the rim at MERICA seems very uneven and might be a planchet issue.</p><p>[ATTACH]1544836[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]1544815[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 22483882, member: 115140"]It would have been helpful to know what the "error" designation was that "Errorhound" is referring to. As KBBPL said, PCGS doesn't note any error designation on their website for the coin. [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000]I'm no expert by any means but am willing to share my observations on the images in the Truview link provided by KBBPL.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000](I'll note here that the reverse images at PCGS show some issues as well that no one mentioned.)[/COLOR][/COLOR] "Errorhound", first off, you should have started your own thread only because it is a way of getting more people to look at it and offer their thoughts. Some collectors see an old thread and scroll it past to get to new "stuff". (The colored letters in parenthesis are by me for clarity in my replies.) [COLOR=#ff0000](A)[/COLOR] I see no signs of your coin being a DDO or A DDR (and as far as I know PCGS wouldn't note any variety for this series since no 2021 Lincoln cents have an FS # that I'm aware of). [COLOR=#0080ff](B)[/COLOR]IMHO, errors and varieties (DDO, DDR, RPM, clash, etc) are considered different and not interchangeable terms. Errors denote equipment malfunction or failure that produce striking errors of the planchets themselves. Varieties refer to an irregularity on the die face which transfers to the coin. [COLOR=#ff4dff](C)[COLOR=#000000]The secondary design elements you mention are incuse (recessed).[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000]I'm seeing two different sets of extra obverse design elements.[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000]-Extra mirrored and incuse elements by the date, the field in front of Lincoln's face, and the rim above TRUST. (I feel these are PSD as explained below.)[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000]-The rim damage and extra letters ("GOD W" in reverse) on the rim above TRUST must be incuse since it corresponds with the rim damage in the same area. [/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000](Lighting is throwing me off and making "W DOG" appear raised.)[/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000][ATTACH=full]1544815[/ATTACH] [/COLOR][/COLOR] T[COLOR=#ff4dff][COLOR=#000000]he letters over the date and the secondary image in the field in front of Lincoln's face are incuse. The light source for the PCGS obverse image in the link seems to be coming from K2 (2:00).[/COLOR] [/COLOR] Edit: As to Pickin and Grinin suggesting a type of brockage, ... Hmmmmm , interesting. I'm not sure how the rim below "W DOG" couldn't be affected if it were a type of brockage. On to the reverse. EDIT: The area under and toward the rim at MERICA seems very uneven and might be a planchet issue. [ATTACH]1544836[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]1544815[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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