2021 ANA Coin Show Report (Saturday edition)

Two reasons, Most people can't handle the blunt honest truth. I don't
want to get banned for posting the obvious truth. Re read the post and you should
be able to figure it out.

 

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That's the point...what's obvious to a tibor ain't obvious to me. I suspect I might need a new hat...

 

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When shows ran to Sunday and everyone left early, the excuse was "well, they need to be back at the shop on Monday."

The fact is that a large segment of dealers show up to buy & sell at wholesale. ONLY.

Many of them don't even bother to set anything out for the retail trade. They did their business during Monday's dealer day and Tuesday PM, Wednesday AM with dealers who didn't come in for Monday. They packed up and were gone Thursday.

Unfortunately, you can't split the room into a retail side and a wholesale-only side without getting into the debate over who is a coin dealer? Does that include the "vest pocket" dealer without a table who is roaming the floor with a roller board and 1/2 million in inventory? (yes, he has an EIN, he's an LLC and he's the scout who feeds a lot of inventory to dealers facing the retail trade, no, he doesn't have a shop - but if you exclude him, several of the "real dealers" won't show up).

What about a "real" dealer who has his half-million in inventory moved by Brinks. They pick up at 11 am Friday or you pay DOUBLE for a Saturday AM pickup and TRIPLE for Sunday...

 

OP, thanks for the show report, really nice and I felt like I was almost there! Nice newps you got!

I do wish someone would do a youtube video of a show report, especially for world coins, but be very interesting.

 

There was a guy there that was recording a video of the Tyrant collection for his YouTube channel (I could tell as he was narrating as he was filming). It would be interesting, but some people/dealers might not want to be filmed (one could always ask for permission and record only where allowed).

 

You have hundreds of people in those shots and getting releases from all of them is impossible.

There was also a sign as you entered the hall that explicitly prohibited video recording.

 

That's true. The best case scenario would be select videos (maybe a few dealer tables that allowed it and some of the displays).

 

CoinWorld and Coin Television were both running around shooting interviews. There's pretty much a format they follow: tell us who you are and tell us something interesting that you have in your case.

 

FYI @CoinCorgi , I just HAD to steal the picture for a meeting I'm in. We're in hour 29 of planning.

 

I need more info!

 

OK, The person leaving the call drops off just puff.
After about 10 minutes he comes back saying that his Internet service died. He called the ISP and they said "Well yeah we know about it, we'll get it fixed sometime".

The call sounds like one of those old analog car phones from the eighties. Static, shouting from an echo chamber &c.

We asked him about it and he said that cell service at his house is terrible so he has one of those pico cells. Which runs off of - wait for it - the Internet connection. He is calling off the original unboosted terrible connection.

And one of the leaders says "so now they're listening to everything we say, I'd better go get my tinfoil hat".

My reply was wait a minute I have a picture for you.

No comments far...

 

There actually is a pretty simple answer. Instead of doing a show Tuesday through Sunday or Wed through Sunday, Do it Saturday through Wed/Thursday or Friday through Wednesday. That will give at least one weekend day of full dealers for normal people to go to the show and if they want to leave early who cares since they'll be skipping a weekday when most people are at work anyways

 

lol Perfect!

I tell ya, it's a vast canine conspiracy, sabotaging coin show bourses.

tibor - I'm mean seriously, if you have a suggestion on how to "fix" the problem (assuming it actually is a problem), then say it. What about coin show bourse schedules could possibly be so controversial that you can't say it out loud on a coin forum?

 

The only thing that ever seems to work is money.

If I were king of the universe, I would do 2 things...

1. I would ask people on the registration form when they intend to leave and assign tables based on rough groupings of that.

2. If I'd offer a significant discount on table prices if you stay through 2:00 p.m. on Saturday.

3. I'd offer a small refund if you notify me 24 hours in advance that you're not going to be able to attend (travel problems or whatever).

4. Based on number 3 I would allow dealers to choose at setup, either their original spot or move to one of the now empty spots with a table tent redirection on the original spot. If the spot next to you is going to be empty I'd allow you to expand into it.

 

@CoinCorgi you aren't a cat, but you are OK in my book (tollerance of doggie people is the sign of an urbanne, well-mannered cat).

 

I had one other idea:
Offer three plans...
1) All week
2) All week minus Saturday (with a slight discount but a higher per day average cost vs all week)
3) Saturday only (low enough cost to potentially attract more of the local dealers who would refill the spots left vacant by the dealers who left Friday)

 

I saw that 1 on Ebay too. Very pricey, but when will you ever see 1 that nice again ? Never. People that have nice grades want to hold on to them. I am that way too with mine. Such a beautiful design. I have done my own study and observation of what a high grade looks like. The head band and marks on the cheek.

 

I might eventually give in and just buy the eBay example. I wanted to check around here in the US first before going that route.

 

Check around first.