2020 Raspberry Awards

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Suarez, Feb 7, 2020.

  1. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I submitted this in 2018 but it didn't win so I offer it up again:

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    This Kushan coin is one of my favorites. I really like the three-fingered Santa Claus but not as much as as the goggle-eyed horse rider. I see this piece more as the equivalent of a hobo nickel than as a damaged ancient coin.
     
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  3. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Here's an example of a coin that someone put a heck of a lot of work into, particularly the details and the size (32mm, 25.1gms). It also has really nice patina.

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  4. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    LOVE this idea @Suarez! And you're right, we've got to make a yearly tradition of celebrating mediocrity.
    Will you judge and decide at the end?
    And can we create new categories??
    If so, I present best/worst tooled hairstyles:
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  5. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    No, I'm not qualified, sorry. My experience with Greek and Roman Provincials is very limited. Someone else needs to pick up this torch ;- )

    The intent of the thread here is obviously lighthearted but if you're new to the hobby and you're left wondering whether a coin like below is or isn't legit, seriously, just stick to buying from biddr or slabbed otherwise you're gonna get burned on ebay.

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    Rasiel
     
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Someone has had some fun finding this "hoard" of "100% Authentic" coins. It must have been wonderfulfinding put about strange names such as Amandus, Bonosus, Regalianus and Dryantilla. Oh and the word "Dremel".

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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    This thread has shown several variations of problem items.
    1. Fakes made from fake dies of original artwork copying real originals
    2. Fakes made from fake dies of original artwork producing something that does not occur in genuine coins
    3. Fakes tooled from real original coins that were not the type created
    4. Fakes mechanically replicated using copy dies
    5. Fake individual coins mechanically replicated by casting
    6. Fakes tooled starting with something that was itself a fake
    7. Coins augmenting the original but with details nothing like the original
    8. Absolute jokes produced in any manner

    Of these, the last category is most interesting. What were they thinking? Which market sector was intended to be fooled.

    Our declaration of a coin being questionable should always include our opinion of which category we believe applies in this case.
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Fake OP.......
     
  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    I'd rather believe it to be an hommage to the Great Krik Douglas

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  10. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    This thread is not sexy enough. Here is a “Coin” that keeps showing up in eBay. This one is advertised as “Roman Silver Coin Unknown Old Rique [sic] Naked Lady Man Unusual Antique Unresearched.” Note that the seller does not explicitly state that it is an ancient Roman artifact. But the seller does not explicitly keep you – or a novice collector – from drawing that inference, either. The description does seem to hope that somebody might take it to be genuine and bid accordingly.

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  11. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Who doesn't like an Old Rique Naked Lady Man?
     
  12. Kiaora

    Kiaora Member

    'Allectus'.jpg Currently up for auction, described as a 'cut AE from the middle of the 4th century, interesting work'. Can't decide if it's best described a number 3 (Fakes tooled from real original coins that were not the type created) or number 8 (Absolute jokes produced in any manner ) in Doug Smith's suggested classification
     
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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    This copies two different originals separated by about 50 years. The style is correct for neither. I guess that makes it class 1 and class 2 for the combination.
     
  14. Bob L.

    Bob L. Well-Known Member

    Wow, some really brutalized coins in this thread. Here's one sold by a major auction house (in 2018, so it doesn't make the, um, cut), listed as extremely fine, with no mention of the carving job. The diadem, hair waves, beard, and spiral torque should look similar to the one here: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2837479

    Orodes II diobol:
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  15. Kiaora

    Kiaora Member

    I don't think it is a copy, rather a re-cut Fel Temp galley of Constans or maybe Constantius II, with the reverse legend smoothed. The style looks OK to me and the reported weight of 5.94 g is on the heavy side but within range
     
  16. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    A previously unique(one example in BM) Alliance coin from Aphrodisias and Ephesos desecrated by tooling.

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  17. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    OMG that's hilarious!

    "Hey, the reverse is worn smooth but if it wasn't you'd see the design right here where I placed this murder scene chalk outline!"

    Rasiel
     
  18. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    The winner has to be this one from eBay two years ago, straight from Uncle John's attic. I believe the asking price was $50,000 USD

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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Looking again:
    The obverse is IMP ALLECTVS PF AVG tooled from a Constantius Gallus with added beard and radiate crown. It now qualifies as class 8 hilarious. I wish I had seen it for sale. It is worth as much as the Gallus parent.
     
  20. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    Some sucker on ebay is about to plunk down real money for this turkey.

    I wonder, if the guy who made this was ballsy enough and changed the lettering to read DIVO CALIGVLA 41 AD wouldn't it get more bids?

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  21. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Looks like a Bulgarian forgerer. Not as talented as Slavey Petrov, but probably a student of his.
     
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