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<p>[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 8302211, member: 115140"]I'm glad to see you agree the single squeeze 2009D DC quarter is similar to the old doubled hub methods and no "skipping" was involved.</p><p><br /></p><p>Can you prove the old doubled hubbed varieties occurred on the first or second hubbing? Did the working hub "skip" to produce the doubling (like you are suggesting it does on the single squeeze)? Of course not. The doubling, however it occurred, is on the die. And that is exactly what a doubled die is. Doubling on the working die that is caused by the working hub striking it multiple times.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hmmm ... to re-phrase a quote from earlier in this thread: Maybe the old double hubbed coins are exploited as a <b><i>variety</i></b> because it's on the die imparted there as a consequence of the double-hubbing.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW-I've heard that before we modern (1955 to the present) variety enthusiasts came along, most numismatists considered varieties undesirable because they considered them "damaged" dies and not worthy of their time. I also think I heard variety collecting took off after the 1955 DDO-001 Lincoln cent was discovered. Has anyone else heard these stories?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 8302211, member: 115140"]I'm glad to see you agree the single squeeze 2009D DC quarter is similar to the old doubled hub methods and no "skipping" was involved. Can you prove the old doubled hubbed varieties occurred on the first or second hubbing? Did the working hub "skip" to produce the doubling (like you are suggesting it does on the single squeeze)? Of course not. The doubling, however it occurred, is on the die. And that is exactly what a doubled die is. Doubling on the working die that is caused by the working hub striking it multiple times. Hmmm ... to re-phrase a quote from earlier in this thread: Maybe the old double hubbed coins are exploited as a [B][I]variety[/I][/B] because it's on the die imparted there as a consequence of the double-hubbing. BTW-I've heard that before we modern (1955 to the present) variety enthusiasts came along, most numismatists considered varieties undesirable because they considered them "damaged" dies and not worthy of their time. I also think I heard variety collecting took off after the 1955 DDO-001 Lincoln cent was discovered. Has anyone else heard these stories?[/QUOTE]
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