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Message:: [QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 8300242, member: 4920"]But the point is the doubling looks different when it's due to a second-hubbing than when it's due to a skip or a slide in a single-hubbing, and there's where the confusion manifests. Let's remind ourselves, strike doubling is doubling, too, but we've learned to differentiate it from die doubling, because it's not on the die. In the case of single-squeeze doubling, that is on the die, that's how the die looks. They've the same exact attributes as strike doubling, though, except, again, they're on the dies, themselves. That's why we can call them die doubling. Except, and this is the kicker, in terms of criteria or attributes, they've nothing whatsoever in common with doubled dies due to second-hubbings. Thus, looking for those, namely, "notching" or "split serifs" in single-squeeze doubled dies, is an oxymoron, pure and simple. We're rather looking for strike doubling attributes in single-squeeze doubled dies, not what we're accustomed to as doubled die attributes, because, again, and for the third time, those latter are unique to double, not single hubbings.[/QUOTE]