2019 Jefferson ..rev, die damage or something else?

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  1. Jim sullivan

    Jim sullivan Toned coins rule

    -2019 Jefferson 5 cents
    -Reverse
    -#1. BOTTOM of door to the RIGHT of main center door of monticello.
    -#1. Raised mark that goes below and on both sides of doorframe while not disturbing the doorframe itself.
    -#2 Basement window BELOW 2nd large window to the LEFT of main center door of monticello.
    -#2 BOTTOM RIGHT corner is a raised mark.
    Other marks seen are pmd.

    Any concensus of what these are?
    ?? Die chip or gouge? Clash mark? Some form of dd?

    Die damage (chip or gouge) should damage the doorframe if im correct, which it does not appear to. So would clash marks I think. Also, I do not see any other marks or evidence of abrasion to remove clash marks. I know there have been some strange minor dd's on the rev. of these nickels. DD? Appreciate your input.
    Thanks!!!!
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  3. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I'll go with die chip. These minor errors do not add value to a coin but can be fun to find. It is hard to say just what happened to the die to produce such a bump.
     
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  5. Jim sullivan

    Jim sullivan Toned coins rule

    Thanks for the input. I AM NOT ARGUING or care about "value"....trying to understand the mechanics better...Both a die chip and a clash mark would be considered damage to the die, cirrect? And their damage would be OVER the devices, thus altering them, correct? The mark on the doorframe goed UNDER it with no apparent alteration to the design. Would that not rule out die chip or clash?
     
  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    A die chip means there is a chip in the die that is like a hole or dent, which in turn leaves a bump on the face of a coin.
     
  7. Jim sullivan

    Jim sullivan Toned coins rule

    Yes, I understand that. So going by that, if there was a chip in the die, at that place at the bottom of the doorframe, that chip out of the die would also result in that section of design being absent as well. On my coin, the "anomoly" goes UNDER the doorframe without that part of the design being impacted. Therefore, as I understand it, this mark would have had to have been on the planchet before the strike, as with feeder finger scratches. This to me dosent look like feeder finger damage as it is raised. Im just trying to understand what this is and how it occurs. Not cuz i care about value or anything. Ive gotten way into these types of coins and im trying real hard to understand yhe exact causes of as much as i can. Would you agree with my assesment?
     
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