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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;shoelessjoe, post: 4937750, member: 114886&quot;]Have you studied what is incuse on what the relationship is between the die cavities on the die in relationship to the planchet. Go on youtube.com maybe, and find the channel of Ken Peavey (deceased <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ). He walks you through the use of playdough and what looked like a homemade plastic die, it will help how the post from ken454 is on point. Again you need to provide an entire photo of the NEW JERSEY dedvices.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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