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<p>[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 5292563, member: 115140"]A doubled working die has been defined long before I arrived in 2013 as doubling to the working die that occurs during the hubbing process.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you believe that class 6 doubled dies are doubled dies since they are "smeared"?</p><p><br /></p><p>Some of these modern doubled dies <u>are</u> created by human intervention. It has been reported/witnessed by experts on a tour of the mint, that a mint employee confirmed they stop the single squeeze on occasion to re-align the working hub on the working die. This was determined to be how some of the modern doubled dies occur.</p><p><br /></p><p>And IMHO, counter stamping coins or other Post Strike Damage wouldn't be part of the die making process, although there are collectors that like them.</p><p><br /></p><p>You've probably got decades more experience than I do, but I respectfully disagree about newcomers being "sucked in". Being there myself in 2013 I was looking for stability and uniformity of information. There was lots to digest and learn (I still am), but speculating about the reasons for why "they" agreed to add a class of doubling isn't helpful to newer members. BTW- I don't recall anyone mentioning these modern doubled dies being extremely valuable, although some are hard to find (Rare, maybe?).</p><p><br /></p><p>You may not like this class but please let's keep the information consistent to keep from confusing newer collectors.</p><p>(This is the point where my wife asks me to get off my soapbox.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie66" alt=":muted:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> )</p><p>Cliff[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cliff Reuter, post: 5292563, member: 115140"]A doubled working die has been defined long before I arrived in 2013 as doubling to the working die that occurs during the hubbing process. Do you believe that class 6 doubled dies are doubled dies since they are "smeared"? Some of these modern doubled dies [U]are[/U] created by human intervention. It has been reported/witnessed by experts on a tour of the mint, that a mint employee confirmed they stop the single squeeze on occasion to re-align the working hub on the working die. This was determined to be how some of the modern doubled dies occur. And IMHO, counter stamping coins or other Post Strike Damage wouldn't be part of the die making process, although there are collectors that like them. You've probably got decades more experience than I do, but I respectfully disagree about newcomers being "sucked in". Being there myself in 2013 I was looking for stability and uniformity of information. There was lots to digest and learn (I still am), but speculating about the reasons for why "they" agreed to add a class of doubling isn't helpful to newer members. BTW- I don't recall anyone mentioning these modern doubled dies being extremely valuable, although some are hard to find (Rare, maybe?). You may not like this class but please let's keep the information consistent to keep from confusing newer collectors. (This is the point where my wife asks me to get off my soapbox.:muted: ) Cliff[/QUOTE]
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