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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Oldhoopster, post: 2990529, member: 84179&quot;]I&#039;m sorry, but IMO it doesn&#039;t look like a real clip for the following reasons:</p><p><br /></p><p>* No Blakesley effect.&nbsp; I understand that this occasionally absent.&nbsp; But with a clip this large I don&#039;t see how it would be able to go through the upset mill and form a full rim opposite the clip.</p><p>* Strong letters and devices at the edge of the clip.&nbsp; Metal needs pressure to flow into the letters and devices.&nbsp; I would expect the metal to flow into the large, missing area (lower pressure) instead of flowing into the letters and completely filling them (higher pressure needed).</p><p><br /></p><p>Just my opinion and welcome comments as to why my 2 concerns may be incorrect.&nbsp; I am looking forward to seeing Rick&#039;s pics when he has the coin in hand[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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