2013 Two-Coin American Silver Eagle West Point Set

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by VetStudent, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. Clint

    Clint Member

    Forget the flippers and taking profits. If ASEs were your obsession, wouldn't you be upset if the mint lied? I guess CW is not the New York Times...(edited redundancy)
     
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  3. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Well yeah, the mint employee is their PR person who is supposed to be relating facts, not attempting to mislead us. I don’t even believe it was incompetence, as no effort was made to correct the CW article, it was complete lack of ethics.
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If ASE's were an obsession of mine (and they are) I wouldn't care, I'd buy the blasted set (which I did)......
     
  5. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    If the Mint lied I would. But here's the issue. The Mint never announced that the coins would be exclusive. Coin World reported that they would be and cited a Mint employee as their source.

    In 1948, the Chicago Tribune (a respected news source at the time) reported that Dewey had defeated Truman for the presidency. Many times news sources are wrong. Be careful calling the Mint a liar in this case as it is Coin World if anyone who mislead. If Coin World was selling them, then I'd see your point, but to blame the Mint for something that you read in Coin World is misplaced anger IMHO.

    that doesn't make me a Mint apologist. It makes me someone who is able to see who said what to whom. The worst part is, that IIRC you could have canceled your order or returned the set and gotten your money back. He's upset that his money making opportunity is spoiled not that he got cheated.
     
  6. Clint

    Clint Member

    Taken within the context of the startling appearance of the currency set RIGHT AFTER ending sales on the SF set, of course it was shady or incompetent dealings...how can you say otherwise with a straight face, with or without the CW interview? Seriously! How does marketing work? You prime the pump plenty ahead of time, get people lined up to buy, then unfold it. NOT what happened with the currency set.

    ETA: IIRC you couldn't have returned within 7 days after finding out about the currency set...

    Oh, and I'm not angry, just disappointed.
     
  7. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Now you guys got me all upset about this again! I'm going to have to get a letter writing campaign going. Like a letter to President Obama complaining about the mint director's lack of ethics and use the 2012 set as one of many examples.
     
  8. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    why didn't you return the set? You didn't have to keep it. You're upset because you saw $$$ and they weren't there in reality.
     
  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    We have a brand new Mint Director, BTW. He just started this past month. You can't blame him. If you're looking for the right person to blame I suggest a mirror.
     
  10. Clint

    Clint Member

    If you received it, then found out more than 7 days later it would not be unique, it would be too late to return.
     
  11. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    The mint employee is their PR person who is supposed to be relating facts, not attempting to mislead us, which they certainly did. I think you could make a case that a seller could be held to what their representative says.
     
  12. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    "We" as in your boss? I'd say write the letter anyway, so the new guy knows he can't continue the same old BS.
     
  13. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    As I would be with any conman that shows me one thing, then delivers another.
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    We as in The United States of America... You know "We The People"?
     
  15. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Another good point showing the con.
     
  16. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Hey, another conman is selling these 2012 sets on TV right now! He actually said the S mint regular proof is available only in the 2012 set!
     
  17. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    I wonder how many of the mintage of ASE's have been purchased solely to sit in IRA's; especially from 1986-1996 when ASE's were the only one ounce silver coin approved option.
     
  18. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    No, I'm not a mint employee, but I don't see the world through dollar signs, either.
    The mint manufactured collectible Eagles and sold them to anyone wanting to buy them, not just to a select few, as they do with the bullion issues.
    If you want a guaranteed profit, become a mint authorized dealer of bullion coins. Anything else is pure speculation.
    Both you and I lost on what was assumed, due to bad reporting, that the 2012 SF sets were "exclusive". I, however, knowing the truth about this issue, still assumed the risk. I am not complaining that I was 'screwed', though.
    The 'Dewey beats Truman' analogy is fitting in this situation.
    Apparently, personal responsibility is almost dead. More and more, people convince themselves that their troubles are always the fault of someone else. No one wants to suck it up and take it like a man.
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Kripes you guys were up late last nite.......:)

    Good morning friends. The 2012 American Eagle San Francisco Two-Coin Silver Proof Set went on sale June 7, 2012 and was on sale till July 5, 2012....roughly a one month time frame to purchase this set. The announcement for the release of this set was first heralded in Coin Update on April 24, 2012.

    http://news.coinupdate.com/american-silver-eagle-san-francisco-two-coin-set-scheduled-1335/

    I ordered one set on the first day (6/7) of the offering. My set was shipped on July 27th and arrived at my residence in early August.....I can't remember the exact date, and FDX says the tracking number is no longer valid, but it was a few days into the month.

    The Making American History Coin and Currency Set went on sale August 7, 2012 and still remains on sale at the mint web site. News for this product was first reported in Coin Update on July 18, 2012.

    http://news.coinupdate.com/new-products-added-to-us-mint-release-schedule-1486/

    Now, if you guys felt that you were being hosed or abused by the US Mint you had more than enough time to cancel your orders as the announcement for the currency set was released a few weeks prior to the shipping of the two coin set. Or do you boys not read the paper? :devil:
     
  20. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    BS. "Personal responsibility" is used way too often to turn the tables by those that are screwing us. You can argue all you want, to no avail, that the mint didn't mislead us.
     
  21. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Well, I haven’t actually analyzed the timeline, as it didn’t apply to me – could have cancelled my order. But, that’s not the point – the point is I tied up funds for a deal and the mint delivered a lesser deal.
     
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