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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Juan Blanco, post: 1647207, member: 41665&quot;]Rubbish. And all discussion of &quot;low-mintage&quot; and price is (implicitly) about VALUE. The collapsing numismatic value of most US moderns isn&#039;t even a point worth arguing over, IMO. But whether (or NOT) that <i>relative value </i>might rise (or probably fall) we shall see. Time will tell, but sensible observers already know &#039;trend is your friend.&#039; I offered a well-reasoned baseline: where we are now, the market is what the market is, etc. </p><p><br /></p><p>TopCatCoin-</p><p>You already know the secret: &#039;Buy Low, Sell High!&#039; Don&#039;t pay full-price. Find a desperate collector who paid the sucker&#039;s premium and offer him/her <i>Spot plus 5%</i>, that&#039;s fair and probably &#039;what it&#039;s worth.&#039; (Pay more only if someone&#039;s truly needy and you&#039;re feeling charitable.) I&#039;d also warn that Silver isn&#039;t bottoming yet - bigger discounts await.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your Hawaii ATB (bullion) cost-basis was/is $37.5/ozt. POS on 9/24/2012 was $33.73, not bad! </p><p>2/20/2013 POS @ $29.11, net feeBay, the Hawaii is currently worth about $53.11/ozt. Intrinsic Ag premium still 5%, the numismatic premium is 29.4% here. </p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2012-5-oz-Silver-Coin-America-the-Beautiful-Hawaii-Volcanoes-%2F150998283357%3Fpt%3DBullion_US%26hash%3Ditem232832f45d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2012-5-oz-Silver-Coin-America-the-Beautiful-Hawaii-Volcanoes-%2F150998283357%3Fpt%3DBullion_US%26hash%3Ditem232832f45d" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-oz-Silver-Coin-America-the-Beautiful-Hawaii-Volcanoes-/150998283357?pt=Bullion_US&amp;hash=item232832f45d</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Then again, APMEX sold the bullion coin for $233. on 1/27/2013. Net feeBay (13%) + the Ag bullion rate (5%), the numismatic premium dropped to a paltry 2.2% over your cost-basis.... GAHH!</p><p><a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2012-5-oz-Silver-ATB-Coin-Hawaii-Volcanoes-Hawaii-America-Beautiful-%2F111004185894" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&amp;campid=5335874456&amp;toolid=10001&amp;mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F2012-5-oz-Silver-ATB-Coin-Hawaii-Volcanoes-Hawaii-America-Beautiful-%2F111004185894" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-5-oz-Silver-ATB-Coin-Hawaii-Volcanoes-Hawaii-America-Beautiful-/111004185894</a></p><p><br /></p><p>It should also be obvious: <i>most popular/recent coins </i>are <u>very</u> poor metric for long-term value on average. These Hawaii coins are TOO NEW to have a meaningful price-chart yet. But if you track many other <i>formerly lava-hot</i> US mass-merch collectibles over time, you will understand exactly what I mean. So check back in August 2015 - three years later - to see how well (or poorly) the numismatic premium held up against your cost-basis, in actuality. </p><p><br /></p><p>For potential buyers, though, <b>when/if POS hits $22.&gt;25./ozt in two - five months,</b> these coins will be selling much <i>much </i>cheaper on the &#039;bay. Just sayin&#039; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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