2011 Penny D.D. ??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Candice Wise, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    I got this back in change yesterday.. I normally look at older coins but this one caught my eye.. I could be wrong but I do believe it's a pretty good example of a doubled die.. The obverse and reverse of the coin are both doubled.. I hope my pics are clear enough.. 20201112_181038.jpg 20201112_181038.jpg 20201112_181236.jpg 20201112_181112.jpg 20201112_181153.jpg 20201112_181212.jpg 20201112_215830.jpg 20201112_181038.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I see DDD - Die Deterioration doubling.

    Not a Doubled Die.
     
  4. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    Really.. on the whole thing.. let me send a close up of IN GOD.. there appears to be a small D inside the D.. all these different types of doubling are so confusing!! Especially this one.. lol.. Okay then.. TY
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That's why I don't bother searching for Doubled Die varieties. The majority of what anyone can find in circulation is Mechanical or Deterioration doubling.
    Worthless doubling.

    Copper plated zinc cents have the biggest worthless doubling issues you can find.
     
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  6. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    I know.. I just thought it was a good example for people like me that have trouble distinguishing the difference in the types of doubling.. I enhanced these pics for you.. I'm not arguing what you told me but GOD has something to it.. If you don't mind looking please.. 20201113_104414.jpg 20201112_181038.jpg
     
  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Hard to tell from the pics, but the obverse looks like die deterioration doubling. I don't see any evidence of notching/split serifs.

    Finding a coin struck with both the obv and rev die being doubled is extremely rare. I imaging some may exist, but I'm not aware of any examples. I would think finding something like this would be lottery odds x another large number.

    As has already been recommended, whenever you think you have a doubled die, check for an exact match at:

    www.doubleddie.com
    www.varietyvista.com

    There is a possibility of finding something new, however, you need to point out the characteristics of true hub doubling (you can find these on doubleddie.com and by studying the die making process). MD and DDD is so common, just posting a pic without supporting evidence isn't very helpful if you think you found a new DD.
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Does He? o_O

    :hilarious:... Just kidding :angelic:
     
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  9. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    Well thanks.. I always try to match mine up to Variety Vista and some markers are there but not all of them.. I have been working on my 1935 wheat cent for weeks now.. I have some pics that showed doubled die but it didn't match all the markers.. but it is there.. just different from what they show..
     
  10. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    Haha.. your funny Paddy.. but seriously GOD has little letters inside it.. I just don't know how to make a pic to show you.. As always.. Thank you
     
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  11. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    At some point you will have to check out actual doubled die listings. Modern day doubled dies are different as on older coins as die prep has changed.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's zinc, so it's a form of being minted with a worn die or DDD. Very common.
     
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  13. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    To get a good idea on Lincoln Shield cent doubled dies, check Wexler's photos of the 2014/2015 P cents. Extra thickness on Liberty, date and reverse designers initials. Sometimes the motto is involved but the heavier doubling is at these points. It will give you a better understanding of modern doubling.
     
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  14. Candice Wise

    Candice Wise Active Member

    Okay.. and I know yall don't believe me but I do look at the listings and the older the coin,especially after being circulated, the harder to make it out.. Thanks for taking the time to look.. one more question.. can anyone tell me if the designers initials have a die crack running across them on this coin.. it's old so it's hard to tell.. TY Screenshot_20201108-181636_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20201108-181711_Chrome.jpg 20201108_135224.jpg 20201108_135250.jpg 20201108_225012.jpg 20201108_135152.jpg 20201108_135028.jpg Screenshot_20201108-181636_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20201108-181711_Chrome.jpg 20201108_135224.jpg 20201108_135250.jpg 20201108_225012.jpg 20201108_135152.jpg 20201108_135028.jpg
     
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