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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;brg5658, post: 1320479, member: 29751&quot;]I believe that grading standards have ebbed and flowed over the years, but also from grader to grader at the TPGs.&nbsp; I do not believe that anything &quot;magical&quot; or appreciably different happened in <b><u><i>2005</i></u></b> (which is what you suggested in your previous posts).&nbsp; There is a difference between thinking that things have changed over time, and believing that somehow the appearance of MS69 SF coins implies that the grading standards changed in general in 2005.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I know that people believe that the OGHs were graded more strictly.&nbsp; And, maybe at that time as a whole the grading standards were more strict.&nbsp; But, I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s the OGH itself that has anything to do with that grading practice.&nbsp; Indeed, I know a lot of reputable dealers and sellers who believe now that you should <u><i>avoid the remaining OGH coins</i></u>, because those which <i>were </i>undergraded have been cracked out and resubmitted.&nbsp; I believe that grading can vary from grader to grader on a given day just as much as it can from 1990 to 2010.&nbsp; Part of the OGH lore in my opinion is also similar to the &quot;superiority of PCGS lore&quot; that is also rampant among collectors.&nbsp; Simply put, I have seen both NGC and PCGS coins undergraded, overgraded, and for the most part correctly graded.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I assume you are referring to Proof coins graded 70? or to Bullion AGEs or ASEs?&nbsp; There are a handful (that is, less than 50 ever graded) standard issue non-proof US coins graded MS70.&nbsp; There has only ever been one business strike coin graded MS70 by PCGS, and that 2003 cent was later reviewed because it developed a spot and the grade was changed to MS69.&nbsp; To my knowledge, ALL of the MS70 coins remaining from NGC or PCGS are Satin Finish coins from 2005-2010.&nbsp; If you&#039;re referencing proof coins or bullion issues, then I have no information there.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t have a hard time &quot;believing&quot; that they changed the grading practices in late 2004 or early 2005 as you suggest.&nbsp; The facts just don&#039;t suggest such a change.&nbsp; Indeed, the facts are that a new type of modern coin was released in 2005 (the Satin Finish coins).&nbsp; Some (or even many) of these coins were struck with such perfect surfaces that they were assigned MS69 grades at a higher rate than the mint-set or circulation coins previous to that.&nbsp; The occurrence of MS69 grades for a new type of struck coin does not imply causation to a &quot;loosening of grading&quot; during the same time frame.&nbsp; Indeed, evidence (which I already pointed out) suggests that non Satin Finish coins continued to be graded at the same pre-2005 strictness (as evidenced by almost no coins grading above MS67).&nbsp; Yes more MS69 coins appeared in 2005, but that is because <b><i><u>they were not the SAME</u></i></b> as the coins graded in years prior, not because the grading standards suddenly became lax.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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