2009 Ultra High Relief Double Gold Eagle?

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  1. St Gaudens collector

    St Gaudens collector Active Member

    Great little mini ashtrays.

    OK...They are kinda cool.
    Or you could have a 100 year old coin for the same price that might go up in value.
     
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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I like the idea of the mint doing more and being more innovative though really it would just be catching up to others. That said 2 oz of gold with the premiums probably wouldn't be to popular unless the mintage was really low. The big fear on something such as that is that it would basically turn into a bullion piece in the aftermarket down the road
     
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  4. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't care myself if it didn't trade with a premium down the road (assuming I got mine from the Mint and didn't pay one myself !:D).

    There are some silver coins and I also believe 2 oz. gold coins with some of the 1907 patterns from Augustus Saint-Gaudens, like the woman Liberty with an Indian headdress. A few were on HA and GC.
     
  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't care if there was no premium down the road myself, but if I expected that I would wait for the aftermarket and get one with no premium.

    Realistically I think the 2 oz silver coins would probably be a better venture assuming the premiums weren't insane as the cost is just much lower. Daniel Carr did some renditions of that design and I think that may be what you are referencing if I remember correctly
     
  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    They did that so that they could be struck with one blow, rather than up to 8 for the original high reliefs.
     
  7. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    When the Smithsonian closed the old numismatic exhibits, they put up a small one in the Castle, and on one of the boards was an original UHR struck on a pair of $10 blanks back-to-back. I thought it was the most amazingly cool coin I'd ever seen.

    When they announced they were going to remake those, I told my wife I didn't care what they would cost, I was getting one.

    I still think it's a magnificently beautiful coin, and the fact that it's worth double what I paid for it does not enter into the equation.
     
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  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I think Burdette's Saints book has pics and commentary on that pattern/coin.

    Believe it or not, it's what started me learning about the original Saint-Gaudens. Before then, I didn't even know they existed.

    Is it ? I thought prices had come down sharply, or at least the premium, compared to a few years ago.
     
  9. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    It was some National Historical thing to honor ASG. They weren't struck by the U.S. Mint.
     
  10. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I didn't get into collecting coins until after my father died and he left his to my brother and me. He had about 20 Morgan and 10 Peace and a few older coins, but not much to speak of. My brother had them and he gave me a list of he coins and asked me to recommend how to divide them. I did the best I could and made two lists and told him to decide which ones he wanted and I would take the other. It was then that I started to research coins and became a collector. That was 10 years ago. During my research, I contacted a dealer to help me. I bought my first coin from him. It was the 2009 UHR Gold Coin. He had just bought it from a man that didn't like the grade he got from PCGS. I don't know what he paid him but I paid $1,300 for an MS68 and got everything that came with the coin from the mint, even the shipping box. I did buy the 2017 American Liberty 225th gold coin and the 1/10th version as well. I wasn't crazy about the gold 2019, but I liked the silver version that is 2.500 troy oz. I think I'll hold off gold purchases for a while.
     
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  11. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Great story, Jim....if you don't want to pay the premiums as opposed to the actual price of gold, there's always low-60's graded common Saints. Just bought an MS63 1915-S at FUN a few months back for maybe 5% over spot.
     
  12. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Having a common date MS65 Saint, I bought a 2009 UHR MS70 PL for $2,200.00 & have no regrets for spending that kind of money on it :D.

    1928 $20 MS65 CAC.jpg 1928 $20 Liberty, MS65.jpg
    2009 UHR PL, slab insert.jpg 2009 UHR, MS70 PL.jpg
     
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  13. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Great coins, Al...I have a raw 2009 UHR but want to buy a 2009 UHR 70PL. I actually didn't see that many at FUN so I just bought Saints and bullion.

    A 1928 is on my "to buy" list. I have 1915-S, 1923-D, 1924, and 1927.
     
  14. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    GoldFinger1969, 1928s aren't difficult to find. The one I own has a "green bean" sticker added. Finding nice examples before "gradeflation" are tough. I've seen recently graded MS64+ coins selling over $2,000.00 :jawdrop:!
     
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  15. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Right....1928's are pretty common (I was saying I didn't see that many 2009 UHR's @ FUN). I want to buy an MS65 or even MS66 1928 (probably a 65) when I get the 1928.

    Should hit that chapter later this week or weekend. I'm up to the 1924-S's. :D
     
  16. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Happy Hunting
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  17. Conder101

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