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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 999641, member: 66"]It isn't.</p><p><br /></p><p>Title 18 Chapter 25 Sec 485</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Whoever falsely makes, forges, or counterfeits any coin or bar in resemblance or similitude of any coin of a denomination higher than 5 cents or any gold or silver bar coined or stamped at any mint or assay office of the United States,</b> or in resemblance or similitude of any foreign gold or silver coin current in the United States or in actual use and circulation as money within the United States; or</p><p>Whoever passes, utters, publishes, sells, possesses, or brings into the United States any false, forged, or counterfeit coin or bar, knowing the same to be false, forged, or counterfeit, with intent to defraud any body politic or corporate, or any person, or attempts the commission of any offense described in this paragraph—</p><p>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than fifteen years, or both.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sec 487</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Whoever, without lawful authority, makes any die, hub, or mold, or any part thereof, either of steel or plaster, or any other substance, in likeness or similitude, as to the design or the inscription thereon, of any die, hub, or mold designated for the coining or making of any of the genuine gold, silver, nickel, bronze, copper, or other coins coined at the mints of the United States;</b> or</p><p><b>Whoever, without lawful authority, possesses any such die, hub, or mold</b>, or any part thereof, or permits the same to be used for or in aid of the counterfeiting of any such coins of the United States—</p><p>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than fifteen years, or both.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sec 489 </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Whoever, within the United States, makes </b>or brings therein from any foreign country, <b>or possesses with intent to sell, give away, or in any other manner uses the same, except under authority of the Secretary of the Treasury</b> or other proper officer of the United States, <b>any token, disk, <i><u>or device in the likeness or similitude</u></i> as to design, color, or the inscription thereon of any of the coins of the United States</b> or of any foreign country issued as money, either under the authority of the United States or under the authority of any foreign government shall be fined under this title.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me that Sec 485 makes the creation of these "restrikes" illegal, Sec 487 make the creation and possession of the dies illegal, and Sec 489 makes their creation and sale illegal.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 999641, member: 66"]It isn't. Title 18 Chapter 25 Sec 485 [b]Whoever falsely makes, forges, or counterfeits any coin or bar in resemblance or similitude of any coin of a denomination higher than 5 cents or any gold or silver bar coined or stamped at any mint or assay office of the United States,[/b] or in resemblance or similitude of any foreign gold or silver coin current in the United States or in actual use and circulation as money within the United States; or Whoever passes, utters, publishes, sells, possesses, or brings into the United States any false, forged, or counterfeit coin or bar, knowing the same to be false, forged, or counterfeit, with intent to defraud any body politic or corporate, or any person, or attempts the commission of any offense described in this paragraph— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than fifteen years, or both. Sec 487 [b]Whoever, without lawful authority, makes any die, hub, or mold, or any part thereof, either of steel or plaster, or any other substance, in likeness or similitude, as to the design or the inscription thereon, of any die, hub, or mold designated for the coining or making of any of the genuine gold, silver, nickel, bronze, copper, or other coins coined at the mints of the United States;[/b] or [b]Whoever, without lawful authority, possesses any such die, hub, or mold[/b], or any part thereof, or permits the same to be used for or in aid of the counterfeiting of any such coins of the United States— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than fifteen years, or both. Sec 489 [b]Whoever, within the United States, makes [/b]or brings therein from any foreign country, [b]or possesses with intent to sell, give away, or in any other manner uses the same, except under authority of the Secretary of the Treasury[/b] or other proper officer of the United States, [b]any token, disk, [i][u]or device in the likeness or similitude[/u][/i] as to design, color, or the inscription thereon of any of the coins of the United States[/b] or of any foreign country issued as money, either under the authority of the United States or under the authority of any foreign government shall be fined under this title. It seems to me that Sec 485 makes the creation of these "restrikes" illegal, Sec 487 make the creation and possession of the dies illegal, and Sec 489 makes their creation and sale illegal.[/QUOTE]
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