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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1002000, member: 15929"]I have always had the impression that the fellow with the gold plated V Nickels would stop into a store, buy something worth a cent and then drop the plated nickel on the counter. The clerk either gave him change for a nickel or change for $5.00 but the plater said nothing and simply accepted his change. As far as I know, nobody using this technique could be prosecuted. </p><p> </p><p>When I stop in at the local convenience store, buy a $1.00 item, pay with a five only to have the clerk give me change for a fifty, I can;t be prosecuted for not saying something. I'm a bit sleazy for NOT saying anything should I notice, but it's not illegal. (Yes, I said something.)</p><p> </p><p>As for Daniel's fantasy pieces, most of today's collecting community knows about or will know about them before the year is out and the fact that they are fantasy pieces fashioned to "look" like coins which were never made or that do NOT exist could possibnly end up in the courts. As Mike Nodle pointed out, there is a reasonable expectation that its a copyrighted infringement on a design originally coined by the US Mint. However, it's not the US Mints design. It's Anthony De Francisci's design. As near as I can tell, both obverse and reverse so it in no way infringes on a US Mint "copyright" per se. As far as I know, Anthony de Francisci didn't get royalties on each dollar coined (for a profit) by the US Mint so I don't think the de Francisci family is getting cheated here or would have a basis for a suit. BUT, given the US Mint's recent "trademark" cease and desist orders which were published in Coin world, I suppose it's possible that when they catch wind of this they may have something to say.</p><p> </p><p>BTW, if you painted those Air Jordans with fabric paint, could you sell them provided you state that they were "altered" examples of legitimate Air Jordan's?</p><p> </p><p>Whatever. I think the legality and the terms "legal" and illegal" are being defined and used from two different entities. US Law and the law of the Coin Collector. What may seem illegal to the coin collector may in fact be legal according to US Law.</p><p> </p><p>Laws are funny things in that they can be read and interpreted differently by every person that reads them. If that were not the case, then there wouldn't be such hot debate over current election items.</p><p> </p><p>In the case of these two coins, only time will tell.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1002000, member: 15929"]I have always had the impression that the fellow with the gold plated V Nickels would stop into a store, buy something worth a cent and then drop the plated nickel on the counter. The clerk either gave him change for a nickel or change for $5.00 but the plater said nothing and simply accepted his change. As far as I know, nobody using this technique could be prosecuted. When I stop in at the local convenience store, buy a $1.00 item, pay with a five only to have the clerk give me change for a fifty, I can;t be prosecuted for not saying something. I'm a bit sleazy for NOT saying anything should I notice, but it's not illegal. (Yes, I said something.) As for Daniel's fantasy pieces, most of today's collecting community knows about or will know about them before the year is out and the fact that they are fantasy pieces fashioned to "look" like coins which were never made or that do NOT exist could possibnly end up in the courts. As Mike Nodle pointed out, there is a reasonable expectation that its a copyrighted infringement on a design originally coined by the US Mint. However, it's not the US Mints design. It's Anthony De Francisci's design. As near as I can tell, both obverse and reverse so it in no way infringes on a US Mint "copyright" per se. As far as I know, Anthony de Francisci didn't get royalties on each dollar coined (for a profit) by the US Mint so I don't think the de Francisci family is getting cheated here or would have a basis for a suit. BUT, given the US Mint's recent "trademark" cease and desist orders which were published in Coin world, I suppose it's possible that when they catch wind of this they may have something to say. BTW, if you painted those Air Jordans with fabric paint, could you sell them provided you state that they were "altered" examples of legitimate Air Jordan's? Whatever. I think the legality and the terms "legal" and illegal" are being defined and used from two different entities. US Law and the law of the Coin Collector. What may seem illegal to the coin collector may in fact be legal according to US Law. Laws are funny things in that they can be read and interpreted differently by every person that reads them. If that were not the case, then there wouldn't be such hot debate over current election items. In the case of these two coins, only time will tell.[/QUOTE]
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