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<p>[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 1001915, member: 307"]so, you're saying that it's ok to dupe the unsuspecting? Buyer beware?</p><p><br /></p><p>1st, let's correct your facts.</p><p><br /></p><p>1 - The 1964-D Peace Dollar was Minted by the US Mint. It was never released, but like the 1933 Double Eagle specimens do allegedly exist. The US Secret Service is actively searching for them and will confiscate them if found. Rumor has it, that they are held mostly outside of this country.</p><p><br /></p><p>2 - 2009 Proof SAE dies were indeed cut and ready for service, the Mint just never coined them. Had someone clandestinely coined them (ala the 1913 V nickels) they would indeed be more difficult to re-claim by the US Government due to the doubt that any reported genuine piece could actually be one of Mr. Carr's creations.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have stated all along, that I have no problem if Mr. Carr wants to distinguish his coins from the US Mint coins in some major and obvious way. It is the almost duplication of a US Mint product that I object to.</p><p><br /></p><p>Logically, Mr. Carr states that he makes his coins for collectors, people that should know that this is a fantasy piece and not a Mint product. He claims being faithful to the designs is essential to create a coin that will be desirable by those collectors. He is obscuring the evidence that this is NOT a US Mint product from the wrong people! People who KNOW that this is a fantasy piece can ignore the obvious "COPY" or change of denomination (or lack thereof) or even country of origin that differentiates it from the genuine article. Those who wouldn't be able to readily see the difference will NEVER see the difference in MR. Carr's creations.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you hide the evidence from the unknowing claiming that the product will be more desirable to the knowing, then that sounds more like an excuse to make something that is misleading or at least desires to capitalize on the fact that it is confusing to the public at large. Lack of knowledge and greed drive a lot of bad purchases in this hobby. To take advantage of that idea is one thing, to foster it is quite another.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mikenoodle, post: 1001915, member: 307"]so, you're saying that it's ok to dupe the unsuspecting? Buyer beware? 1st, let's correct your facts. 1 - The 1964-D Peace Dollar was Minted by the US Mint. It was never released, but like the 1933 Double Eagle specimens do allegedly exist. The US Secret Service is actively searching for them and will confiscate them if found. Rumor has it, that they are held mostly outside of this country. 2 - 2009 Proof SAE dies were indeed cut and ready for service, the Mint just never coined them. Had someone clandestinely coined them (ala the 1913 V nickels) they would indeed be more difficult to re-claim by the US Government due to the doubt that any reported genuine piece could actually be one of Mr. Carr's creations. I have stated all along, that I have no problem if Mr. Carr wants to distinguish his coins from the US Mint coins in some major and obvious way. It is the almost duplication of a US Mint product that I object to. Logically, Mr. Carr states that he makes his coins for collectors, people that should know that this is a fantasy piece and not a Mint product. He claims being faithful to the designs is essential to create a coin that will be desirable by those collectors. He is obscuring the evidence that this is NOT a US Mint product from the wrong people! People who KNOW that this is a fantasy piece can ignore the obvious "COPY" or change of denomination (or lack thereof) or even country of origin that differentiates it from the genuine article. Those who wouldn't be able to readily see the difference will NEVER see the difference in MR. Carr's creations. If you hide the evidence from the unknowing claiming that the product will be more desirable to the knowing, then that sounds more like an excuse to make something that is misleading or at least desires to capitalize on the fact that it is confusing to the public at large. Lack of knowledge and greed drive a lot of bad purchases in this hobby. To take advantage of that idea is one thing, to foster it is quite another.[/QUOTE]
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