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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1001610, member: 4781"]That would be legal (to make an "1889-CC" out of a genuine 1889). By that I mean the act of defacing the coin to make it look like something else is perfectly legal. You can take a 1944-D penny, cut off parts of the "4" to make it look like a "1914-D". You can even sell it for a profit. "Hobo" nickels are defaced US coins sold for big premiums. Now if you took that faked 1889-CC or 1914-D and tried to pass it off as a genuine, then that would be fraud. If you provide full disclosure of what it is when you sell it, then no problem. But note that these two are examples of modifying (altering) a coin to make it look like a known (existing) numismatic rarity worth more money. I'm only modifying coins to look like numismatic items THAT DON'T EXIST.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The issue is the terminology used in the HPA - "original numismatic item". Is a 1964-D Peace Dollar an original numismatic item subject to "copy" regulations ? According to the US government, they don't exist. So I say no. Same for 2009-DC (proof) Silver Eagles.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is a Peace Dollar an original numismatic item ? In general, yes. Is my "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace Dollar a copy of a Peace Dollar ? <b>No, it <i>is</i> a genuine Peace Dollar (now defaced).</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 1001610, member: 4781"]That would be legal (to make an "1889-CC" out of a genuine 1889). By that I mean the act of defacing the coin to make it look like something else is perfectly legal. You can take a 1944-D penny, cut off parts of the "4" to make it look like a "1914-D". You can even sell it for a profit. "Hobo" nickels are defaced US coins sold for big premiums. Now if you took that faked 1889-CC or 1914-D and tried to pass it off as a genuine, then that would be fraud. If you provide full disclosure of what it is when you sell it, then no problem. But note that these two are examples of modifying (altering) a coin to make it look like a known (existing) numismatic rarity worth more money. I'm only modifying coins to look like numismatic items THAT DON'T EXIST. The issue is the terminology used in the HPA - "original numismatic item". Is a 1964-D Peace Dollar an original numismatic item subject to "copy" regulations ? According to the US government, they don't exist. So I say no. Same for 2009-DC (proof) Silver Eagles. Is a Peace Dollar an original numismatic item ? In general, yes. Is my "1964-D" fantasy over-struck Peace Dollar a copy of a Peace Dollar ? [b]No, it [i]is[/i] a genuine Peace Dollar (now defaced).[/b][/QUOTE]
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